Soyl/iSoyl

Crouch Potato

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Arable Farmer
I am looking to buy into Frontier's Soyl/iSoyl, mainly to move towards applying liquid nitrogen at variable rates. Does anyone have any experience with this service? How well does it work?
I have an Amazone UF-02 bought 1 year ago with an Amatron 4 screen, will a link up to this be seamless?
 

PFinSuffolk

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BASIS
You will need a SKUL cable (IIRC £700 ish from Amazone - not the same as the Horsch one for drills) to plug iSOYL into the Amatron 4. Box should be unlocked for VR. If not Maps & Doc TC Geo needs unlocking - probably £400ish.. If it has this then just check it has GPS switch as this is needed for section control. If you can get a GPS feed to the box (hemisphere or similar) then can do VR maps as XMLs or shapefiles and it might be cheaper option as won't need SKUL, iSOYL kit or iPAD. Depends if you're on SOYL or not I guess.

Not sure it will ever be simple with an Amatron 4.. they always seem over complicated to me compared to the older Amazone boxes.
 

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I would first ask yourself why you want to apply N at variable rates. Do you follow the Robin Hood or King John theory. ie are you going to reduce N on the good bits to feed the poor, or vice versa. I have never read any science to prove either theory correct. My own tramline trial only went to prove that the more N you applied the better the crop yield (obviously within reason) whether we were looking at the best bit of the field or the worst.
Don't be taken in by the sales pitch.
 

PFinSuffolk

Member
BASIS
I would first ask yourself why you want to apply N at variable rates. Do you follow the Robin Hood or King John Theory. ie are you going to reduce N on the good bits to feed the poor, or vice versa. I have never read any science to prove either theory correct. My own tramline trial only went to prove that the more N you applied the better the crop yield (obviously within reason) whether we were looking at the best bit of the field or the worst.
Don't be taken in by the sales pitch.
Agree - this season it's perhaps going to be wiser to apply more to potential than try to rescue poorer areas given N pricing.
 

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Agree - this season it's perhaps going to be wiser to apply more to potential than try to rescue poorer areas given N pricing.
Agreed. But if those poor areas are significantly smaller than a tramline width how can you adjust application? If they are greater than a tramline width it will be the off button not the 10/20% button.
But we must not forget it is replacement cost of N that is important not actual cost if it was bought early. Its irrelevant what you paid this year if next year N is going to be £2 kilo, then you need to hold some back.
 

ih1455xl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northampton
I am looking to buy into Frontier's Soyl/iSoyl, mainly to move towards applying liquid nitrogen at variable rates. Does anyone have any experience with this service? How well does it work?
I have an Amazone UF-02 bought 1 year ago with an Amatron 4 screen, will a link up to this be seamless?
You can get it for free on the onesoil.ai website and I think Yara atfarm
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
I would first ask yourself why you want to apply N at variable rates. Do you follow the Robin Hood or King John theory. ie are you going to reduce N on the good bits to feed the poor, or vice versa. I have never read any science to prove either theory correct. My own tramline trial only went to prove that the more N you applied the better the crop yield (obviously within reason) whether we were looking at the best bit of the field or the worst.
Don't be taken in by the sales pitch.
^This. The satellite images are extremely useful, but not in the way they're sold for VRN.
By the time your applying Nitrogen to the crop 'the horse has already bolted', and there isn't much you can do to significantly increase yield with VR. But if you look at a few seasons worth of NDVI satellite images you'll see that its the same areas that underperform every year, so use the NDVI's to target soil sampling and find out why, or simply use them to create VR seed maps and up the plant count on areas with poor germination / poor texture / north facing / low OM etc.

12 years of NDVI's here, gave up variable rate N in 2013, no regrets.
 

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Five nature-recovery projects spanning 100,000ha launched

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Written by Michelle Martin from Agriland

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Five nature-recovery projects spanning nearly 100,000ha across the West Midlands, Cambridgeshire, the Peak District, Norfolk and Somerset have been announced by the government and Natural England today (Thursday, May 26).

This is the equivalent in size to all 219 current National Reserves.

The aim of the projects is to deliver nature recovery at a landscape scale, helping to tackle biodiversity loss, climate change and improve public health and well-being.

All five projects will make a significant contribution towards the national delivery of the international commitment to protect at least 30% of land and...
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