Ssafo compliant silage clamps

[Jdunn55]

How big a clamp would you need for a clamp to hold 100 acres early first cut (late aprilish) and second cut (5ish weeks later)

And then a second clamp for 40 acres of maize and another 50 acres of third and 50 acres fourth cut (maize sandwiched between the two)

Would rather go long and narrow, ideally 30' wide but certainly no more than 40'

Any rough ideas on cost as well please

FYI its not for me it's for a friend who's got EA sniffing around in his area and knows his clamps aren't compliant

 

[JP1]

I can help to calculate this for you / your friend. Will PM

 

[dinderleat]

250k ish

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I put this up this summer. It's a pair of 45ft clamps, 90ft long. Cost about 150 plus ground works.

It was clad after this photo and will be more than 40% funded through mid tier.

 

[vantage]

I put this up this summer. It's a pair of 45ft clamps, 90ft long. Cost about 150 plus ground works.

It was clad after this photo and will be more than 40% funded through mid tier.

I make that about 1300 tons with a density of 700kg/m3?

 

[Jdunn55]

I put this up this summer. It's a pair of 45ft clamps, 90ft long. Cost about 150 plus ground works.

It was clad after this photo and will be more than 40% funded through mid tier.

Thanks, was the £150 including the shed?
If so would you happen to know how much less it would cost (even just a guess would be great)

Did mid tier cover 40% of all of it or just the roof?

Also would height to the eaves?

Sorry for the questions! And thanks!

 

[frederick]

Thanks, was the £150 including the shed?
If so would you happen to know how much less it would cost (even just a guess would be great)

Did mid tier cover 40% of all of it or just the roof?

Also would height to the eaves?

Sorry for the questions! And thanks!

With mid tier your likely to get the roof for free. So if your friend is building it to improve his compliance it's a no brainer to go for the roof as well.

 

[Jdunn55]

With mid tier your likely to get the roof for free. So if your friend is building it to improve his compliance it's a no brainer to go for the roof as well.

Can you do it on a new clamp?

I thought you could only claim on an existing clamp?
So have to put the clamp up one year, then apply for a roof and then have it built the second year?

 

[frederick]

It is possible to do it on a new clamp if you sort your reasons properly.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I wouldn't have a clue what it would cost without the roof but I'm certain that it would cost more with no roof than it would with a roof and mid tier contribution.

This was a new build, the mid tier offer was in place before I even had planning.

This is a tennants fixture. Build it tall and use use panels so if you leave it can just be taken off at ground level and either moved of sold.

 

[Wesley]

We could do with some more clamp space to make life easier & not keep playing musical chairs with trying to empty one clamp ready for the next crop. First option short term I think is pad of concrete, bit of a channel a around sides & back & one across the front with a drain.
If they want walls (its an easy way to increase capacity without increasing footprint) then roof it at the same time

 

[Martyn]

I put this up this summer. It's a pair of 45ft clamps, 90ft long. Cost about 150 plus ground works.

It was clad after this photo and will be more than 40% funded through mid tier.

What thickness panel are they 6”
Will you go another one higher in the future

 

[TheRanger]

I put this up this summer. It's a pair of 45ft clamps, 90ft long. Cost about 150 plus ground works.

It was clad after this photo and will be more than 40% funded through mid tier.

Are you planning on filling it any higher than the top of the panels?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

What thickness panel are they 6”
Will you go another one higher in the future

Yes, 6 in. Those are 5 foot panels so 10 foot walls. I'd love to put another panel on but I'm sure it's not engineered to take those sorts of loads. I think I've only ever seen one 4m high clamp and the steels were enormous.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Are you planning on filling it any higher than the top of the panels?

They're full now. One is probably a meter above the walls in the centre which puts a loading shovel close to the roof.

 

[som farmer]

How big a clamp would you need for a clamp to hold 100 acres early first cut (late aprilish) and second cut (5ish weeks later)

And then a second clamp for 40 acres of maize and another 50 acres of third and 50 acres fourth cut (maize sandwiched between the two)

Would rather go long and narrow, ideally 30' wide but certainly no more than 40'

Any rough ideas on cost as well please

FYI its not for me it's for a friend who's got EA sniffing around in his area and knows his clamps aren't compliant

thank goodness, its not for you,

EA have specific regs for silage pits, and you are required to get their approval, in advance.

we have a stoned area, in the yard, where we put a big heap, no problem with that apparently, the big concrete one next to it, stopped us using it, until new effluent tank.

the inside ones, silage finished, full of cattle, so nothing said, thankfully.

 

[Farmer Keith]

Yes, 6 in. Those are 5 foot panels so 10 foot walls. I'd love to put another panel on but I'm sure it's not engineered to take those sorts of loads. I think I've only ever seen one 4m high clamp and the steels were enormous.

4m high, 30ft clamps, 30ft to the eaves (which looks a bit daft now that it’s built.) 16” external steels and I think the shuttered central wall is 8”. £125k to build with £47k coming back from the mid tier, did a the ground works and a few little bits in house so maybe saved £10k?! Good building but a serious investment particularly for a tennant, it does nothing the the earth banked clamp didn’t.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Did 2 lots of 75x 30 for 110k no roof.
That did involve demolition of existing.

Roof will be 40ish when I get round to it.

Concrete has gone up 20% since then though.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Also I frequently questioned that I could buy a house for that kind of money

 

[Wesley]

it does nothing the the earth banked clamp didn’t.

It’ll keep your tyres dry You won’t regret the little bit extra cost to go that bit higher though