Stand in footbath solutions for scald

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
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Montgomeryshire
I use cow footbaths, trying too get hoggs or store lambs too walk single file when they’ve never seen footbath before was a nightmare. I find if they can walk through 2 wide it stops that idiot one reversing and stopping everything. Old bloke that used too feed thousands not far from here told me too put a roof over the bath too stop reflections, then I think it was Neilo who mentioned about throwing fleeces in as well. Now it works like a treat!

I’m far to tight to use a valuable product like ‘fleeces’ for such a job, but have mentioned chucking dags/belly wool in.
Anything that’s to hand really, just to break the surface. In the bath at the buildings it’s usually an armful scraped off the bedding in a nearby shed.
 
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Agrivator

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Stored under cover, it’s not going to go off.👍

But you need a pair of waterproof wellingtons if you need to stand in the footbath to break up some of the lumps.

One of the main benefits, apart from its effectiveness, is that it is completely innocuous and safe. Is formalin still regarded as carcinogenic?
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
But you need a pair of waterproof wellingtons if you need to stand in the footbath to break up some of the lumps.

One of the main benefits, apart from its effectiveness, is that it is completely innocuous and safe. Is formalin still regarded as carcinogenic?

If it’s any consolation, I had to stand in the footbath to crush lumps of ‘new’ Golden Hoof a week ago. It all forms lumps when you chuck it in the water.
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
I use cow footbaths, trying too get hoggs or store lambs too walk single file when they’ve never seen footbath before was a nightmare. I find if they can walk through 2 wide it stops that idiot one reversing and stopping everything. Old bloke that used too feed thousands not far from here told me too put a roof over the bath too stop reflections, then I think it was Neilo who mentioned about throwing fleeces in as well. Now it works like a treat!
Started throwing fleeces in 2 years ago and it changed my life 😂 it’s f**king exhausting pushing sheep up a bath
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
But you need a pair of waterproof wellingtons if you need to stand in the footbath to break up some of the lumps.

One of the main benefits, apart from its effectiveness, is that it is completely innocuous and safe. Is formalin still regarded as carcinogenic?
In my experience non waterproof wellingtons aren’t much use for anything…
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I’m far to tight to use a valuable product like ‘fleeces’ for such a job, but have mentioned chucking dags/belly wool in.
Anything that’s to hand really, just to brake the surface. In the bath at the buildings it’s usually an armful scraped off the bedding in a nearby shed.
I know I’m a wastrel. I pulled a good fleece out of a bag the other day as I’d cleaned up the shearing pen the day before. A whole 40p wasted just like that! 😂 when I think of time saved even on my heady rates of 25p/hour it was well worth it! 😂😂
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
In my experience non waterproof wellingtons aren’t much use for anything…

It could well be that @Agrivator is particularly astute, keeping separate pairs of ‘dry weather’ and ‘wet weather’ wellies to hand?
After all, why would you want to wear out a good pair of waterproof wellies in a dry time, when leaky ones will do just fine?
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
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Cheshire
It could well be that @Agrivator is particularly astute, keeping separate pairs of ‘dry weather’ and ‘wet weather’ wellies to hand?
After all, why would you want to wear out a good pair of waterproof wellies in a dry time, when leaky ones will do just fine?
Dry weather wellies are called boots… 😂😂 I hate wellies, wear boots as much as I possibly can. The moment I feel damp on my feet they go on the fire. Can’t be doing with damp feet so always keep new boots/wellies in house ready for the changeover. I know plenty of folk west wellies all year around. Don’t know how they do it, especially in those £8 Nora things!
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Dry weather wellies are called boots… 😂😂 I hate wellies, wear boots as much as I possibly can. The moment I feel damp on my feet they go on the fire. Can’t be doing with damp feet so always keep new boots/wellies in house ready for the changeover. I know plenty of folk west wellies all year around. Don’t know how they do it, especially in those £8 Nora things!
I Wear wellies every day, only took waterproof trousers off last week, got pi55 and sh!t down the wellies first hour while bagging ewes 🤦🏻‍♂️ I was glad to get waterproofs back on today.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Dry weather wellies are called boots… 😂😂 I hate wellies, wear boots as much as I possibly can. The moment I feel damp on my feet they go on the fire. Can’t be doing with damp feet so always keep new boots/wellies in house ready for the changeover. I know plenty of folk west wellies all year around. Don’t know how they do it, especially in those £8 Nora things!

I wear wellies for most of the year too, but not £8 Nora ones! However, I was born and bred on a dairy farm, and old habits die hard.

Sometimes, if I’m feeling particularly carefree and rebellious, I put my Redbacks on, only to get p*ssed on soon after.
 

Agrivator

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It could well be that @Agrivator is particularly astute, keeping separate pairs of ‘dry weather’ and ‘wet weather’ wellies to hand?
After all, why would you want to wear out a good pair of waterproof wellies in a dry time, when leaky ones will do just fine?

But what happens if you're wearing leaky wellingtons and suddenly come across a puddle that won't jump in itself?
 
If you can stand them in it, Zinc Sulphate is the daddy. If it’s a permanent footbath, it doesn’t get weaker if it’s left either, it just gets more concentrated as the water evaporates.

I think it was Moredun that had a big permanent bath, where they just tested the strength and topped up as necessary. Supposedly it isn’t affected by ‘organic matter’ either, but not long how thick a soup it can become and still work?
That's interesting, was worried it's too big and not too keen on emptying it very often. Saying that it's got a proper gate valve and a 12,000 ltr sump tank.
Just be quite expensive to get it full and concentrated with a product, its having a roof built over it to stop the rain filling it up.
 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
If you've only got the odd lame sheep and they're easy to catch and you're a bit tight like me....use a cut off Welly with golden hoof in.
Grip sheep and put bad foot in...have a smoke...job done.
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When you've finished just pour it back into container to re use. (Dysect bottle ideal).
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
If you've only got the odd lame sheep and they're easy to catch and you're a bit tight like me....use a cut off Welly with golden hoof in.
Grip sheep and put bad foot in...have a smoke...job done.View attachment 1045637 When you've finished just pour it back into container to re use. (Dysect bottle ideal).

Iirc @paul&mandy have a few sheep. They might not have enough wellies. ;)
 
With nearly 13,000 feet if only a tiny amount got scald that would take forever...
The new central penning area we are designing the bath will take the full double race of the rappa so they can get a soak while we treat the next group etc. It's then got the same size drain back area so any taken out product goes back to the bath. Then they go back out onto clean concrete to fully dry.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
With nearly 13,000 feet if only a tiny amount got scald that would take forever...
The new central penning area we are designing the bath will take the full double race of the rappa so they can get a soak while we treat the next group etc. It's then got the same size drain back area so any taken out product goes back to the bath. Then they go back out onto clean concrete to fully dry.

Sounds like an ideal setup.👍

I’ve had bad scald getting into the twin mob this time. When I did their first dose/Ovivac/Clik I set up a 3m x 1m bath with Zinc Sulphate in a pen on the front of the RAPPA drafting race. I could fit half the drenching race full in at a time, then Clik’ed them while they were standing in it. Most of them will have had just 5 minutes in it, but it cleared up the scald a treat. That was straight back out into a (fresh) grass field, not onto a concrete drying area.
 

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