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Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
I saw that and thought to my self "900mm high - any self-respecting Welsh Mountain sheep would have pee'd itself laughing - " if any Iron Age herder thought that would 1, keep the sheep in, and 2, keep the wolves out. You only have to read the postings in the last 2-3 years with stories about
sheep losses due to wolves being re-introduced into the mountains in France, to realise that 900mm fencing is pissing in the wind.
PS - ANY programme which Prof. Alice Roberts is involved is worth watching :cool:
So, no experience of jumping pigs, then?

And I second the opinion on Alice.:) Can't remember the name of the series but it isn't very eye catching, I nearly missed the program.:confused:
 
The vulture bone flute was scanned (medical scanner type thing) and a replica 3d printed in resin.
My informant, who makes flutes professionally, has had a tootle on it, and assures me it is 'perfect'.
One of the archies at Bournemouth University, Peter Knight, has done a lot of experimentation with the use of music and sound at ancient sites such as stone circles and chamber tombs. He makes a good argument for these places being built with acoustics in mind as part of their rituals, possibly with hallucinogens involved to help with the proceedings (for the ancients, that is, not Mr Knight.)
As usual the more academic experts think it is all a bit far fetched and new age
 

Old Boar

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Location
West Wales
To herd a pig, you stick a bucket on its head and shove it backwards. That would have taken a while, and there would have been wild boar all over the place then. The skull of a Wild Boar is very distinctive, but I missed bits of the programme.

I have a theory:-

Han and his mum lived in Scotland. His mums sister had been swept off her feet by a tall blond man from down south. His mum sent Han to find her, giving him hard boiled eggs for the journey and a haggis to temp her sister back to Scotland. Han set out but after around 100 miles, the eggs had had a rather binding effect, so he put them in his deep cloak pocket and forgot about them.
When he arrived at his aunties place, she asked him what the smell was. He threw the eggs to the pigs in a pen. Auntie threw the haggis in too as she could not stand them and it had gone a bit off. The pigs were in the pen waiting to be slaughtered for the feast for the dead leader were more than happy to eat the offerings.
The pigs were then slaughtered but had not fully swallowed the eggs and haggis.

A few hundred years later

The archaeologist dug up the pigs heads, tested them and found traces of Scottish DNA. It just shows you how a Scotch egg can lead you astray.
 

fgc325j

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So, no experience of jumping pigs, then?

And I second the opinion on Alice.:) Can't remember the name of the series but it isn't very eye catching, I nearly missed the program.:confused:
Experience of jumping pigs - "fraid not. There is another presenter, an Anthropologist if i remember. She has, what sounds like, an East European surname, she also makes very good documentaries, which are well worth the licence fee.
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
To herd a pig, you stick a bucket on its head and shove it backwards. That would have taken a while, and there would have been wild boar all over the place then. The skull of a Wild Boar is very distinctive, but I missed bits of the programme.

I have a theory:-

Han and his mum lived in Scotland. His mums sister had been swept off her feet by a tall blond man from down south. His mum sent Han to find her, giving him hard boiled eggs for the journey and a haggis to temp her sister back to Scotland. Han set out but after around 100 miles, the eggs had had a rather binding effect, so he put them in his deep cloak pocket and forgot about them.
When he arrived at his aunties place, she asked him what the smell was. He threw the eggs to the pigs in a pen. Auntie threw the haggis in too as she could not stand them and it had gone a bit off. The pigs were in the pen waiting to be slaughtered for the feast for the dead leader were more than happy to eat the offerings.
The pigs were then slaughtered but had not fully swallowed the eggs and haggis.

A few hundred years later

The archaeologist dug up the pigs heads, tested them and found traces of Scottish DNA. It just shows you how a Scotch egg can lead you astray.
Now you mention it, they did dig up a whole load of cauldrons. Could they have been used for covering the pigs' heads instead of buckets?

(Still no answer to my query about jumping pigs. Sometimes I despair of TFF. Maybe that is something the Archies -- I like that word! -- could test in their laboratory?).
 

NewFarm

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Some pieces found on the farm here are in the British Museum.

I'd not hesitate to have the opportunity to learn about the history of the ground under our feet.
 

NewFarm

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If you look on the Defra Magic map, there's are area marked where the dig took place (which was in the 1960s I understand). There's no restrictions per-se, but I have noticed that certain country side stewardship options would not be supported on the area in question. In summary, no grant for destroying archeological features, which doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
 

NewFarm

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Of course on the flip side, if you were into such things, if you did have archeological features you may well find that you could receive a grant to protect them.
 

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
One of the archies at Bournemouth University, Peter Knight, has done a lot of experimentation with the use of music and sound at ancient sites such as stone circles and chamber tombs. He makes a good argument for these places being built with acoustics in mind as part of their rituals, possibly with hallucinogens involved to help with the proceedings (for the ancients, that is, not Mr Knight.)
As usual the more academic experts think it is all a bit far fetched and new age
Doesn't sound that far fetched to me - acoustics are clearly a factor in the design of churches/cathedrals, so the idea wasn't alien in the middle ages........
 

Kidds

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Horticulture
I found a hoard of bronze age axes in the marsh next to the house. They went off to Winchester for investigation but I got them back and no one has ever given me any trouble over it.
Cousin is mad into metal detecting and has been for over 40 years, not a passing phase.
He found two bits of bronze in our field, one was a broken spear point and one a part of an axe. They were declared treasure and taken off him so someone can put them in a drawer never to be seen again. He said they weren't worth anything and nothing to be learned from them. He won't be so keen to declare anything else he finds.
One or two bronze axes have been found in this area, always wanted to find one myself.
 

pycoed

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So, no experience of jumping pigs, then?

And I second the opinion on Alice.:) Can't remember the name of the series but it isn't very eye catching, I nearly missed the program.:confused:
Have to agree Alice is my favourite vegetarian.
When we kept pigs, we had them penned on a patch of ground sensitively fenced with big 6 asbestos sheets laid horizontal & held with road pins. 1 metre high. When the pigs had rooted under the fence sufficiently, the gander would push in to investigate. They were scared stiff of him & they would clear the sheets without touching them. It was quite impressive if you didn't actually have to catch them & re-pen afterwards!
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
Have to agree Alice is my favourite vegetarian.
When we kept pigs, we had them penned on a patch of ground sensitively fenced with big 6 asbestos sheets laid horizontal & held with road pins. 1 metre high. When the pigs had rooted under the fence sufficiently, the gander would push in to investigate. They were scared stiff of him & they would clear the sheets without touching them. It was quite impressive if you didn't actually have to catch them & re-pen afterwards!
Maybe they had pigmy pigs back then?
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
knew a girl years ago, who would take her pet pig, on a lead, into town !
My MPs mother was a bit of a character and had a pig as a pet. Local gossip has it that she had a big argument with British Rail about taking it on the train. Apparently, they have strict rules on the carriage of dogs. But then a pig is not a dog, is it? Always an idea to check the pedigree of your MP before voting, you never know....
 

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