Straining hinge joint, a real agricultural issue we can actually solve.

[TelesnaAg]

I have to do all my internal fencing next summer and im trying to up my game fencing wise. Thus far i just been using the tie off at one end, then through clamp on, hook to tractor, pull hard as a i dare. Tie off which is painful...

In order to get some real pretty fencing, should i:
Tie off both ends and centre strain with two clamps then use wire crimps for a super smart finish?
Using t clips instrad of tying off, time is a factor money not so.
Judging to get clamp ose to end strainer so dont loose to much tension when tying off is pia.
Ive got nearly everything with fencing down pat its just tying off and straining hinge joint id like to improve consistency amd save time.

Dont worry about subs and supermarkets!! Emerse yourself in the good old pastime of fencing, the black art if tying knots, the perfect strain.

Will add some pics tomorrow.

Ant...

 

[Wood field]

There’s some good videos on you tube of kiwis fencing , although they seem to prefer line wire to stock net

 

[Bury the Trash]

yeah boundary clamps and crimps is what we use .

Drivall Boundry Clamp - Davidsons Farm & Country

DRIVALL BOUNDRY CLAMP

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[DrWazzock]

What’s the problem with tensioning and stapling it at one end. We clamp and strain with telehandler boom in/out ram. Easier control than pulling with a tractor. Posts need a prop, (godfather) and small cross piece nailed on at bottom end (godmother) so they don’t rotate or lift out of the ground at the other end from the straining operation. But we dig a hole for end posts and ram in earth to pack, not drive in. We only use gripples for joining nets and minor tensioning or equalisation of net wires going over a hill etc.

 

[JockCroft]

Sounds like your are fitting net. Ht?. Will always need to be tightened in future, so best solution I have found is Radiseures near centre. Dont waste money on Gripples, great to use easy to strain, even if soaked in oil for some time before fitting will seldom restrain fence after a year or two. For my stupidity used a lot of them 15 to 20 years ago.

 

[2wheels]

There’s some good videos on you tube of kiwis fencing , although they seem to prefer line wire to stock net

aye, 7ht wires as tight as f***. 6ft post every 8-10yds with droppers between. held ewes and lambs. bonus of no heads stuck in ryelock.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

New fence....If I have room I pull past strainer on one end with telehandler and tension /tie off with gripple t 's , having enough length to twitch wire once sufficiently tight as I find with the tension I use gripples have a tendency to let go.
Pull past the strainer as I now roll it out and clamp it to pull it tight using my homemade quick fencer style gizmo....

 

[tepapa]

On long runs I wouldn't worry too much how far the clamp is from the end strainer. You could be 2 and a bit meters and not lose much tension if you've pulled the netting up plenty. Don't tension the slack to the strainer and hold with a staple. Pull the slack around the strainer with your hands and tie knot in the centre of the strainer.

On short runs use ratchets so you can take the slack out, if you don't want to pay for them, do a gut pull and get a James Higgins fence repair tool to take the slack out of the join.

Use crimps to join netting, can hardly tell they're there.

If you struggle to tie on netting when under tension then tie both ends and gut pull. A lot easier tying off slack wire without a strut in the way and as always use a long enough wire tail.

 

[Bury the Trash]

What’s the problem with tensioning and stapling it at one end.

They can slip , it can can twist the straining post and the wire wont settle central and equal like it does otherwise, it can pull the strut out of line , driving staples in hard can damage the wire alsorts of amaturish shanagans can take place to spoil the job but for us now its using concrete strainers ,staples don't like them at all

 

[TelesnaAg]

Sounds like your are fitting net. Ht?. Will always need to be tightened in future, so best solution I have found is Radiseures near centre. Dont waste money on Gripples, great to use easy to strain, even if soaked in oil for some time before fitting will seldom restrain fence after a year or two. For my stupidity used a lot of them 15 to 20 years ago.

What is radiseures?? Cant find.

Yes its 8/90/30.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

They can slip , it can can twist the straining post and the wire wont settle central and equal like it does otherwise, it can pull the strut out of line , driving staples in hard can damage the wire alsorts of amaturish shanagans can take place to spoil the job but for us now its using concrete strainers ,staples don't like them at all

Yeah stappling off on a post thwart woth danger as it will rust and snap in Future.

Im using 7/8 pine post H end assemblies, with 5/6 cross beams.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

On long runs I wouldn't worry too much how far the clamp is from the end strainer. You could be 2 and a bit meters and not lose much tension if you've pulled the netting up plenty. Don't tension the slack to the strainer and hold with a staple. Pull the slack around the strainer with your hands and tie knot in the centre of the strainer.

On short runs use ratchets so you can take the slack out, if you don't want to pay for them, do a gut pull and get a James Higgins fence repair tool to take the slack out of the join.

Use crimps to join netting, can hardly tell they're there.

If you struggle to tie on netting when under tension then tie both ends and gut pull. A lot easier tying off slack wire without a strut in the way and as always use a long enough wire tail.

Ive been end pulling and thinking off going to gut pull, so knots are neater and have better strain.

Long runs not so bad, but i have a heap of 300m runs coming up, which means the hinge joint be joined anyways so may as well gut strain and join there im thinking .

Ive got good at getting as much slack out of wire when tying off as i can but its not perfect, i also pull the bottom.of the clamp a bit with wire strainer to help straighten the clamp, easy amd works well.

Strainrite have a gut pull set up, i prefer the walters clamps but.

Have a warratah clamp its junk really, works but junk.

The guide is pull 50% of the crimps out, but that's useless as its never even along the whole fence, i just geuss after experience.?

Cheers, Ant

 

[TelesnaAg]

New fence....If I have room I pull past strainer on one end with telehandler and tension /tie off with gripple t 's , having enough length to twitch wire once sufficiently tight as I find with the tension I use gripples have a tendency to let go.
Pull past the strainer as I now roll it out and clamp it to pull it tight using my homemade quick fencer style gizmo....

Do the gripple t's let go even after bending around? Or you do some wraps even with the gripple t?

I do all my pulls with tractor past the post, i can get it tight no dramas, i can even break it with the 7614.

A quicker process and consistent process os what im.after i suppose.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

The stay wire is a pia, tying off bottom two wires. H bar is near top wire also pia, then clamp chain is near 1 off middle wires.

Thats the the part that sh*ts me

Ant...

 

[Tubbylew]

Do the gripple t's let go even after bending around? Or you do some wraps even with the gripple t?

I do all my pulls with tractor past the post, i can get it tight no dramas, i can even break it with the 7614.

A quicker process and consistent process os what im.after i suppose.

Ant...

I wouldn't bother with them, tried them once they're a right fiddle and look like a dogs breakfast after, easier to tie knots, or if you really can't be arsed with tieing your own knots you can (or at least could) buy them and crimp them on to the end of the net.

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[TelesnaAg]

I wouldn't bother with them, tried them once they're a right fiddle and look like a dogs breakfast after, easier to tie knots, or if you really can't be arsed with tieing your own knots you can (or at least could) buy them and crimp them on to the end of the net.

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I think gut pull with the strainrite wore crimps might be the go.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

Strainrite must have gone broke they dont answer phone.

Called 3 times now

Ant...

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Do the gripple t's let go even after bending around? Or you do some wraps even with the gripple t?

I do all my pulls with tractor past the post, i can get it tight no dramas, i can even break it with the 7614.

A quicker process and consistent process os what im.after i suppose.

Ant...

Never given them the opportunity to let go as after several straight gripples giving up I twitch religiously. But I do tend to strain things as tight as possible.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

I wouldn't bother with them, tried them once they're a right fiddle and look like a dogs breakfast after, easier to tie knots, or if you really can't be arsed with tieing your own knots you can (or at least could) buy them and crimp them on to the end of the net.

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I love the T's for tying off ringlock on the end I'm tensioning. Get it nice and tight especially using the contractor tool. Tie off the starting end by hand though.

 

[Willie adie]

On long runs I wouldn't worry too much how far the clamp is from the end strainer. You could be 2 and a bit meters and not lose much tension if you've pulled the netting up plenty. Don't tension the slack to the strainer and hold with a staple. Pull the slack around the strainer with your hands and tie knot in the centre of the strainer.

On short runs use ratchets so you can take the slack out, if you don't want to pay for them, do a gut pull and get a James Higgins fence repair tool to take the slack out of the join.

Use crimps to join netting, can hardly tell they're there.

If you struggle to tie on netting when under tension then tie both ends and gut pull. A lot easier tying off slack wire without a strut in the way and as always use a long enough wire tail.

Good advice as always John,
I have maybe been lucky but I have never had gripples slip, though I do twist both ends after tensioning, and all the folk I speak to that fence up here have never had them slip either,