Shann_mann
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So I’ve sat and watched Tom Pembelton as normal for the bedtime routine. And he’s brought a product called supersoil. An organic fertiliser. Has anyone on here used this? Or know anyone that has?
Supersoil
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I bought a kilo and applied early in April over 10 acres of grazing ground. Just an experiment.... lets hope its not an expensive experiment. Is it too good to be true? Are the claims scientifically backed up?.......
I bought a kilo and applied early in April over 10 acres of grazing ground. Just an experiment.... lets hope its not an expensive experiment. Is it too good to be true? Are the claims scientifically backed up?.......
Greythundercloudys
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Do you spread it by hand. Is that advertising on Facebook alot.
Mix it into a standard crop sprayer and spray it on. Heavily marketed on FB. The product is a very fine black powder.
My Dad thinks its nonsense. My rational side agrees, but i suggested the first man to buy bagged nitrogen was probably laughed at too. But one way and another I am trying to cut back on bagged nitrogen using clover, better use of slurry etc. All sensible. Time will tell if me spending money on black powder and wasting a few hours spreading it was sensible or not.
SilliamWhale
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It is utter nonsense. I suspect they can get away with claims because it is not regulated as a fertilizer. Their fb comments are also heavily edited.
How much is it?
How much is it?
From memory £260 for a Kg. Probably cheaper buying class A drugs!
1Kg covers 10 acres is the only saving grace. I usually spread 50Kg of Nitrogen to the acre on grazing so similar price.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
It sounds like Covid - the more you believe in the effects, the more effects you'll perceive.
Didn't take many tonnes of that stuff per square mile to change things up, did it?
But most of the changes happened because of the belief, than the substance - I am extremely sceptical but that shouldn't be a barrier to experimentation, just as long as it's safe to fail
Didn't take many tonnes of that stuff per square mile to change things up, did it?
But most of the changes happened because of the belief, than the substance - I am extremely sceptical but that shouldn't be a barrier to experimentation, just as long as it's safe to fail
SilliamWhale
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Bloody crooks
- Location
- Buxton, Derbyshire
I keep seeing the ads for it on Facebook. It does sound too good to be true, bit like a product a few years ago that claimed similar grass growth improvements, can't remember it's name though.
However I went down a YouTube rabbit hole the other day and watched a video about how ancient amazon tribes had improved soil. It said they had added something to the soil, possibly biochar, and that had drastically improved the soil however we don't fully understand how they did it. The amazon soil is famously infertile once you get rid of the forest. However even hundreds/thousands of years later you can still see where those ancient tribes improved the soil. The improved soil is rich and black, whereas a few feet away is poor, grey soil. So maybe there is some long lost science in soil improvement that we just don't know about.
However I went down a YouTube rabbit hole the other day and watched a video about how ancient amazon tribes had improved soil. It said they had added something to the soil, possibly biochar, and that had drastically improved the soil however we don't fully understand how they did it. The amazon soil is famously infertile once you get rid of the forest. However even hundreds/thousands of years later you can still see where those ancient tribes improved the soil. The improved soil is rich and black, whereas a few feet away is poor, grey soil. So maybe there is some long lost science in soil improvement that we just don't know about.
SilliamWhale
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There is a scientific explanation for biochar
Biochar - Does it Really Work in the Garden?
Biochar is a special kind of charcoal that seems to have many benefits as a soil amendment. It holds water, acts like a fertilizer and grows bigger plants. While doing all this it is also eco-friendly and sequesters carbon in the soil for many thousands of years. Sounds like a win-win-win. What...
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Supersoil is spivvery.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Yeah it's called charcoal
I've tried this bio-stimulates before and it's pretty meh. Sometimes I thought it worked other times no difference whatsoever. I think it worked better on ground that wasn't getting organic manure.
- Location
- Foothills of the Quantocks
If any intrepid undergraduates reading this want to culture some out and identify/PCR the constituents, we'd be interested to know what's in it!
I think it's little more than a white-label blend from a company like IndoGulf. I've bought some bacteria from them before but it was more like £10/kg.
I think it's little more than a white-label blend from a company like IndoGulf. I've bought some bacteria from them before but it was more like £10/kg.
bought it or paid to promote it ?
law says. if paid promotion it should br made clear
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
He paid for it. Think he said it was £300 a kg or something... Even bought a Jarmet sprayer!!! The boy means business
- Location
- Buxton, Derbyshire
There is a scientific explanation for biochar
Biochar - Does it Really Work in the Garden?
Biochar is a special kind of charcoal that seems to have many benefits as a soil amendment. It holds water, acts like a fertilizer and grows bigger plants. While doing all this it is also eco-friendly and sequesters carbon in the soil for many thousands of years. Sounds like a win-win-win. What...
Supersoil is spivvery.
Yeah it's called charcoal
So if its as simple as incorporating charcoal/biochar why aren't we all spreading tonnes of the stuff on our fields??
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Do you know how expensive charcoal is?
I suspect you would need to put on regular amounts of it out probably 2 tons an acre for a long time too achieve the results you want...
Especially if it's just to grow an extra ton of wheat...
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Fungi basically sort sugars and residues into stable soil Carbon anyway - moreso if you stop applying crap to the soil, and let it take as long as it takes, whatever 'it' is
We are probably leaving 3 tonnes/ha or similar as residue behind the cattle, and it needs nothing beyond that, other than more cattle next year
Our best results with char was just letting cattle eat it and sh!t it out all laden with microbes and enzymes and whatever else, char made in an old steel bathtub from pinecones and scraggy firewood bits.
Thus if you have the basics close - lots of good conditions for fungal attack on residues etc - then you would never need tonnes of char.
It's really just a "surface area" that you can infect with more effective microorganisms than may be present on the landscape.
And if put out there sterile, then you may as well spend three hundred quid on a cinderblock and let it sit out there. Or give me your 300 quid and I'll tell you how the party went.