Tiny Tiny Slugs

[Neddy flanders]

looks like FB on OSR, but is infact minute slugs. Had three doses

of miniXX, doesn't seem to have done anything. Pellets still there, slugs not interested. any way of stopping them?

 

[Bogweevil]

Have you ruled out turnip slugworm, larvae of a sawfly?

seldom causes economic loss. Soon be gone.

 

[Brisel]

Turnip sawfly caterpillars can soon strip a crop. Take them very seriously!

 

[snarling bee]

I'd be more worried about the tiny tiny blackgrass in the picture!

 

[Clive]

apply small amount of AS at night, Napalm !

 

[Neddy flanders]

What rate, Clive?

 

[Brisel]

Just a trial - spray 4+ litres/ha of manganese sulphate on a test area with a high water volume and fine spray quality. Let us know if it works please.

 

[Clive]

What rate, Clive?

if you have straight AS 100L/ha - nukes slugs snd gives the crop a bit of N which gets it away

could probably get away with less, i’ve never trialled different rates

 

[Brisel]

if you have straight AS 100L/ha - nukes slugs snd gives the crop a bit of N which gets it away

could probably get away with less, i’ve never trialled different rates

At what growth stage? Pre emergence to avoid scorch?

 

[Clive]

At what growth stage? Pre emergence to avoid scorch?

when you have slugs to kill - it's a contact solution

PS I'm not sure this is approved - its just something we found works / helps in the past

 

[Badshot]

100l/ha of AS through flat fans would scorch the bejesus out of the crop though?
Be like reglone wouldn't it?

 

[Brisel]

when you have slugs to kill - it's a contact solution

PS I'm not sure this is approved - its just something we found works / helps in the past

Approved? Fine as long as it is within the 30 kg/ha N limit.

 

[Clive]

Approved? Fine as long as it is within the 30 kg/ha N limit.

Well below that

 

[Clive]

100l/ha of AS through flat fans would scorch the bejesus out of the crop though?
Be like reglone wouldn't it?

fert jets when we have done it in the past

 

[Badshot]

fert jets when we have done it in the past

Ah, that makes more sense.
Had visions of little osr plants going very brown.

 

[SilliamWhale]

looks like FB on OSR, but is infact minute slugs. Had three doses

I get these v v small slugs on my land. With direct drilling it can be very extremely difficult to get osr established as they don't seem to come to the surface. V frustrating.

I also think barley is negatively allelopathic towards osr compared to wheat and that has an impact

 

[B'o'B]

Some Australian visitors to our farm said they used 5kg of AS in 75-100 L of water with flat fans at night for snails. I’ve never got around to trialing it though so can’t vouch for it in any way!

 

[Breakthru]

I get these v v small slugs on my land. With direct drilling it can be very extremely difficult to get osr established as they don't seem to come to the surface. V frustrating.

I also think barley is negatively allelopathic towards osr compared to wheat and that has an impact

Not sure if we have had this discussion before. The Bthru I sell @£11/ha will do them no problem. Even with Anchor added to stop it moving too quickly from the surface (it is very soluble) it will take them or drive them deep. Note you can never say anything kills anymore but suffice to say if you go in the evening when they are active as per AS it has the same effect as salt. Mixture of Sulphates.
We apply it along with pre-ems which in the case of Osr means that the CSFB come in then move on as the soil conditions are uncomfortable for them. Where we have no slug problems we use Gard (garlic aspirin mix) at 0.5ltr/ha then again at egg laying time end sept at 1.0ltr/ha £20/ltr which stops the ingress of larvae to the stems.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Not sure if we have had this discussion before. The Bthru I sell @£11/ha will do them no problem. Even with Anchor added to stop it moving too quickly from the surface (it is very soluble) it will take them or drive them deep. Note you can never say anything kills anymore but suffice to say if you go in the evening when they are active as per AS it has the same effect as salt. Mixture of Sulphates.
We apply it along with pre-ems which in the case of Osr means that the CSFB come in then move on as the soil conditions are uncomfortable for them. Where we have no slug problems we use Gard (garlic aspirin mix) at 0.5ltr/ha then again at egg laying time end sept at 1.0ltr/ha £20/ltr which stops the ingress of larvae to the stems.

I'll give it a go next year

 

[Midlands Farmer]

Silly question I’m sure but AS stands for what?