Too much clover?

Catriona

New Member
A little unsure about grazing this in case we get bloat!
Suckler cows and weaned lambs should be heading in here on next rotation. They have a lot less clover in their other fields.
This field was cut for silage 2-3 weeks ago, and had 20:8:14 applied afterwards. (Our P & K levels were low on soil test, and I was hoping the dose of N would help the grass outcompete the clover on regrowth - seems not, so far!
If I leave it another couple of weeks, will the grass (3 year old ryegrass ley) increase and give me a better mix of grazing?
Or is the clover going to continue to dominate now?
I could leave it to cut for silage again - but I guess I'll end up in the same position.
(there's even ore clover than the photos suggest!)

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chipchap

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Shropshire
If you are using water tanks for drinking there is an oil you can float on top of the water in the tank to help stop bloat. Ask your vet. Is it Arachis oil? Or am I confusing it with something else?
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
A little unsure about grazing this in case we get bloat!
Suckler cows and weaned lambs should be heading in here on next rotation. They have a lot less clover in their other fields.
This field was cut for silage 2-3 weeks ago, and had 20:8:14 applied afterwards. (Our P & K levels were low on soil test, and I was hoping the dose of N would help the grass outcompete the clover on regrowth - seems not, so far!
If I leave it another couple of weeks, will the grass (3 year old ryegrass ley) increase and give me a better mix of grazing?
Or is the clover going to continue to dominate now?
I could leave it to cut for silage again - but I guess I'll end up in the same position.
(there's even ore clover than the photos suggest!)

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Clover always looks more than there actually is given broad leaf.

As has been said, don't let in hungry,some roughage in feeder and some cooking oil in trough litre in 300 gallon should be fine.

Watch them closely for first 12 hours and have oil at hand to drench if need be.
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I’ve put plenty of crossbred lambs into cover like that with no ill effects. Don’t put them in hungry mind…
I dread too think how a bunch of scotch lambs straight off the lorry would cope with it though!! 😳
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
I’ve put plenty of crossbred lambs into cover like that with no ill effects. Don’t put them in hungry mind…
I dread too think how a bunch of scotch lambs straight off the lorry would cope with it though!! 😳
Not the lambs to worry about, it’s how you’d cope with the amount of dead ones I’d be worried about!!🙈🙈😂
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
Very clovery year, we’ve got more than ever, the wet may brought it on here, I’m not complaining, we were like a dust bowl last year!! It can rain until October for me 😂
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
A little unsure about grazing this in case we get bloat!
Suckler cows and weaned lambs should be heading in here on next rotation. They have a lot less clover in their other fields.
This field was cut for silage 2-3 weeks ago, and had 20:8:14 applied afterwards. (Our P & K levels were low on soil test, and I was hoping the dose of N would help the grass outcompete the clover on regrowth - seems not, so far!
If I leave it another couple of weeks, will the grass (3 year old ryegrass ley) increase and give me a better mix of grazing?
Or is the clover going to continue to dominate now?
I could leave it to cut for silage again - but I guess I'll end up in the same position.
(there's even ore clover than the photos suggest!)

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The grass will come, depending on your soil temp at the moment it's likely too warm for rg to be doing much growing.
If you need to graze it, nothing stopping you, but it has a lot of potential yet
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
at the moment, grass growth is holding the clover back, here, but, as you say, rye grass is going to run to head, if we get another dry spell, fortunately, rain is forecast.
 

sheepdogtrail

Member
Livestock Farmer
A little unsure about grazing this in case we get bloat!
Suckler cows and weaned lambs should be heading in here on next rotation. They have a lot less clover in their other fields.
This field was cut for silage 2-3 weeks ago, and had 20:8:14 applied afterwards. (Our P & K levels were low on soil test, and I was hoping the dose of N would help the grass outcompete the clover on regrowth - seems not, so far!
If I leave it another couple of weeks, will the grass (3 year old ryegrass ley) increase and give me a better mix of grazing?
Or is the clover going to continue to dominate now?
I could leave it to cut for silage again - but I guess I'll end up in the same position.
(there's even ore clover than the photos suggest!)

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Personally I would wait a least 2 months after 20:8:14 application. The clover will be okay as long as it does not cook first. Which I would expect is not likely given your local. The PRG will go to seed. But it is a good roughage with the white clover. I would watch the ram lambs for symptoms of stones. Do you know your soil(s) silica levels?
 
Location
Ceredigion
Personally I would wait a least 2 months after 20:8:14 application. The clover will be okay as long as it does not cook first. Which I would expect is not likely given your local. The PRG will go to seed. But it is a good roughage with the white clover. I would watch the ram lambs for symptoms of stones. Do you know your soil(s) silica levels?
I thought it was cattle he was grazing , but my main concern would be staggers grazing after putting that much potash
 

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