What should I be charging per hour for tractor and man

[Norfolk Olly]

Some of these rates are financial suicide, why go to work to earn nothing i can earn that sat at home

 

[A1an]

Some of these rates are financial suicide, why go to work to earn nothing i can earn that sat at home

I was thinking the same, I haven't read all the thread but up here you are looking at £55/hr.

 

[james ds]

Some of these rates are financial suicide, why go to work to earn nothing i can earn that sat at home

And better still you won't lose money at home , working cheap at hirework is like being pick pocketed , your losing money but you don't know it until it's too late.

 

[ollie989898]

I bet virtually any of the participants on this thread could go out and get paid hard cash at £15/hour or thereabouts to drive someone else's machine. What I don't understand is why you would want to run your own kit for the same amount in your pocket at the end of the day??

Maybe this is why a fair few one man bands have told me on the quiet that they won't do the silage job?

 

[betweenthelines]

And better still you won't lose money at home , working cheap at hirework is like being pick pocketed , your losing money but you don't know it until it's too late.

Think you need to have a chat with your Accountant. Even a parked up machine is incurring costs, whether it's depreciation or other fixed costs like loan/hp payments. As long as it's earning more than it's variable costs (fuel, tyre wear etc.) it's better to have it working. Also, if you only use a tractor (for example) 8 months out of twelve, you're going to have to charge 50% more when it IS earning.

Anyway, we are in a consumer lead economy so the OP's question is wrong. Not "how much should I charge?" but "how much will you pay?"

 

[ollie989898]

Think you need to have a chat with your Accountant. Even a parked up machine is incurring costs, whether it's depreciation or other fixed costs like loan/hp payments. As long as it's earning more than it's variable costs (fuel, tyre wear etc.) it's better to have it working. Also, if you only use a tractor (for example) 8 months out of twelve, you're going to have to charge 50% more when it IS earning.

Anyway, we are in a consumer lead economy so the OP's question is wrong. Not "how much should I charge?" but "how much will you pay?"

That kind of logic is mental!

If I left my own tractor at home and went and did a months worth for someone and sold only my labour I could use that money to pay the finance bill that month?

A tractor that is a bit older but with lower hours is worth more from what I have seen. They don't wear out parked silent in a shed! Slightly older tractors kept in good order and with low hours nearly sell themselves!

 

[holywell farmer]

Do they provide food/accommodation as part of job?

That's good wage 22 pound an hour,
To put that into context some digger drivers in London are on that much,

 

[Norfolk Olly]

That kind of logic is mental!

If I left my own tractor at home and went and did a months worth for someone and sold only my labour I could use that money to pay the finance bill that month?

A tractor that is a bit older but with lower hours is worth more from what I have seen. They don't wear out parked silent in a shed! Slightly older tractors kept in good order and with low hours nearly sell themselves!

I can see that an older jd 30 series or fendt favorit might not depreciate but alot of the gear run today with all of its issues, predominately egr/ad blue emissions, and complex electronics that are still not being ironed out from update after update I can not honestly see them becoming sought after in a few years as i think that until someone introduces an alternative fuel tractors have hit a plateau

 

[Chae1]

That's good wage 22 pound an hour,
To put that into context some digger drivers in London are on that much,

Depends on cost to live though.

I always worked it out as pints of beer per hour in area i worked.

My youngest brother works in Melbourne and earns 85k UK money and says it isn't that much! He doesn't live a extravagant lifestyle and rents a small flat.

 

[betweenthelines]

That kind of logic is mental!

If I left my own tractor at home and went and did a months worth for someone and sold only my labour I could use that money to pay the finance bill that month?

A tractor that is a bit older but with lower hours is worth more from what I have seen. They don't wear out parked silent in a shed! Slightly older tractors kept in good order and with low hours nearly sell themselves!

FFS, I thought you used to be an advisor of some kind? What did you tell your clients? Buy a new milking parlour, but don't use it, go relief milking instead to pay for it? Whatever you pay for a tractor, it's costing you, even if it's just the Interest you've lost by not having that money in the Bank.

 

[holywell farmer]

Bit of a comment on this thread from me,
In construction groundwork,plant hire rates and agreements tend to be better with more professionalism attached, contractors are extremely trusting with agreeing rates verbally and farmers paying up agreed price,

 

[ollie989898]

FFS, I thought you used to be an advisor of some kind? What did you tell your clients? Buy a new milking parlour, but don't use it, go relief milking instead to pay for it? Whatever you pay for a tractor, it's costing you, even if it's just the Interest you've lost by not having that money in the Bank.

That is the most illogical argument ever. You dont install a parlour and then offer to milk your neighbours cows for less than your own?

Bank and interest? What parallel universe is it where you see those words in the same sentence, Id like to know!

 

[SillyPhily]

Think you need to have a chat with your Accountant. Even a parked up machine is incurring costs, whether it's depreciation or other fixed costs like loan/hp payments. As long as it's earning more than it's variable costs (fuel, tyre wear etc.) it's better to have it working. Also, if you only use a tractor (for example) 8 months out of twelve, you're going to have to charge 50% more when it IS earning.

Anyway, we are in a consumer lead economy so the OP's question is wrong. Not "how much should I charge?" but "how much will you pay?"

Do you milk cows?
Reads an awful lot like the if I can get another 100 cows at 1p/l profit i'll be fooking loaded mentality.

 

[Gerbert]

Ow no, supply and demand!

That about sums this thread up.
How is it your problem if someone wants to work at a loss?

 

[ollie989898]

Ow no, supply and demand!

That about sums this thread up.
How is it your problem if someone wants to work at a loss?

Its a problem because this thinking is so prevalent it borks the job for everyone.

When subsidies end there will be a phase shift in thinking and the broken calculators will have to be thrown out.

 

[Norfolk Olly]

Ow no, supply and demand!

That about sums this thread up.
How is it your problem if someone wants to work at a loss?

Only becomes a problem when everyone is driving down the price by working for nothing

 

[ollie989898]

Can someone please list the likely costs per hour of a newish 150hp tractor kept for 5000 hours?

 

[Gerbert]

Well, fair enough, that was a bit of a shortsided remark from me, it was ment from the side of the one wanting the service. However, if you can not make a profit, go find something else!

 

[ollie989898]

Well, fair enough, that was a bit of a shortsided remark from me, it was ment from the side of the one wanting the service. However, if you can not make a profit, go find something else!

No, speaking as the customer it is of course an absolute lol. I wonder why more people dont just get matey down the road to do all their work if he can run a tractor for less than £30/hr.

 

[Werzle]

I bet virtually any of the participants on this thread could go out and get paid hard cash at £15/hour or thereabouts to drive someone else's machine. What I don't understand is why you would want to run your own kit for the same amount in your pocket at the end of the day??

Maybe this is why a fair few one man bands have told me on the quiet that they won't do the silage job?

Contractings an addiction for many of these chaps, its all they have ever wanted to do. Dont under estimate that