Aye tell them to f**k off
Suspended from Red Tractor
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
SilliamWhale
Member
Sounds nice Clive but its too far gone. Problem with RT is they are judge, jury and executioner in this sort of thing. I don't agree with it because I find a lot of their excess's flagrant but farmers don't have any representation on the board so we're stuck, they need to grow their brand each year by making up new rules or finding issues that aren't really important.
Tonym
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
When eating my porridge I always wonder what the black bits are which always seem to be in there. Is it maybe an odd grain of oilseed rape or have we now got the truth an it is Clive's mouse?
Neuson510k
Member
- Location
- North Coast
Yes but you have to get in the mindset of the FARCE
You got a Non-Compliance that's all.
You decide to write a strongly worded letter or heated phone call...to some office staff member who has a mortgage to pay, a range rover on the tick and has to save up for new tyres.. Why would they care?? There just following the procedure with a farmer that has a non-compliance. They are probably fully aware that the whole thing is a farce. But the box needs ticked.
Your not lying, you may put another bait box down.
SilliamWhale
Member
Nope. Red Tractor is about growing a brand. Its nothing to do with produce quality etc. its purely about promoting a generic brand. There's a stable income for them and the assurance sector is growing so much its not far off being considered a profession by those in the bubble
Sorry, but as a cereal grower I DONT WANT FAECES IN MY BREAKFAST, and neither do the general public.
RT is designed to give create confidence in ALL OF OUR products, by establishing a standard for fit and proper produce for the human food chain.
You failed to meet that standard. Not by much, but you failed.
You can either rant about it, or sort it out.
- Location
- south norfolk
I sympathise with you but they got us by the rubbish and they know it too.farmers would never stick together and tell em to shove their scheme up their arses.crop assurance inspection here this week which i despise.nice chap turns up and drinks my coffee and eats my biscuits and looks at everything that has cost money to do,for no real benefit and then get sent a bill for the privellage of it.really pisses me of but have to do it
Nick...
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SilliamWhale
Member
- Location
- Devon
The answer would be simple if we could trust everyone just to stop paying.
In reality, we need to talk to buyers to secure a non RT market for all who are willing to sign a contract of responsibility to the same effect.
I was going to suggest a farmer owned and run scheme but I don't think that would work in practice.
In reality, we need to talk to buyers to secure a non RT market for all who are willing to sign a contract of responsibility to the same effect.
I was going to suggest a farmer owned and run scheme but I don't think that would work in practice.
We all knew when FA came in it would make honest men liars.However, I say get stuck into them if you feel you have a case. The letter was probably standard issue and they need telling the full facts as you have explained them on here. I had an issue when they wanted me to light up the area for milk collection in case of a nighttime collection which was never going to happen.I got stuck in and when I eventually got hold of the part time employee the matter was soon resolved. It will take a bit of time and energy but you feel a lot better than just rolling over like most people are recommending. Keep us posted.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
What about the droppings they did not find?
What happened to the mouse !!
Is it dead or alive ?
Time to call in the mouse police?
When we empty out our store the last sweepings get incinerated !!!
No-one has such a store.
Nope, you would get the same letter for a cat turd. RT inspector could ask when you last wormed your cat. Not joking.
maybe I should call in a hellfire drone strike ? its the only way too be sure
In fact I may email NSF to tell them thats the corrective action I will take !
- Location
- Darlington
I agree with Clive. I have not fully rejoined this year yet.On my small plot it is costing £`s an acre for nothing.I will join Clive`s alternate scheme.Does it actually say in rt rules that store must be 100% secure? On the VERY rare times the oh makes me go shopping, sometimes ask shoppers if they buy because of the rt logo, those that deign to answer have no idea what I`m on about,never heard of it,not bothered where their food comes from as long as it is cheap. The others are foreigners and don`t give a ........These rt lot need to do a survey with no fancy banners or logo`s or any other signs (in normal shops) and they will then get a proper survey result. BUT. They will not because they already know the answer.
i have no objection to the rejection - it happens and off it went to become a chickens breakfast at £20 a tonne less instead of being yours - quite rightly so !
My objection is to being suspended from the scheme until I'm prepared to lie and say I will do something different from my perfectly good (and approved by NSF) procedure we have in place, we don't have a rodent problem here, not even close, despite these best possible efforts we do have a few mice as does every grain store and farm in the UK
- Location
- Huntingdon
- Location
- Hertfordshire
Did the mill retest the load or was it rejected on that one sample with the one mouse turd? and when the load was tipped you could hand on heart say the sample was clean enough?
If the answer is yes, I would be looking for another mill !!
[edit] If the answer is no to the second question, probably should have gone through the cleaner especially as it was a clear up load
If the answer is yes, I would be looking for another mill !!
[edit] If the answer is no to the second question, probably should have gone through the cleaner especially as it was a clear up load
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opininionated
Member
There are two sides to every story, it would be nice to see RT come on board and put over their version.
Somehow how I think it'll be a long wait....
Somehow how I think it'll be a long wait....
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
As a consumer I want to know there will be no mouse crap in my bread.
If I toured every hospital in the country and found one single mouse dropping I would want to know what they were going to do about it.
Yes you are right the rules are getting extreme but mouse dropping was found and as a very high standard producer you surely want to consider how it happened and what you might be able to do to stop it happening again. It can't possibly be the first time you have had to humour a jobsworth surely.
Besides, you are the one with mouse shite in your product.
If I toured every hospital in the country and found one single mouse dropping I would want to know what they were going to do about it.
Yes you are right the rules are getting extreme but mouse dropping was found and as a very high standard producer you surely want to consider how it happened and what you might be able to do to stop it happening again. It can't possibly be the first time you have had to humour a jobsworth surely.
Besides, you are the one with mouse shite in your product.
wasted years
Member
- Location
- Cumbrian born and bread
Oh aye I'm with you on the big pair side, and I'm sure you don't actually mean that I have no integrity-none taken.
I have had my nuts squeezed twice but maybe you are wealthy enough to afford a fight, I wasn't .
Good luck to you, it is after all your decision to make.
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