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I think your issue is area specific.Used to be the way a young man could get going with a herd of cows and make his way in the world, not nowerdays, completely shut up shop.
I think your issue is area specific.Used to be the way a young man could get going with a herd of cows and make his way in the world, not nowerdays, completely shut up shop.
The MMB were on top of the game of distribution, the only people on top of that game these days are .........Petition: Reintroduce the Milk Marketing Board
The Milk Marketing Board (MMB) up until 1994 controlled the production and distribution of Milk. Since its abolition Dairy Farmers have been subjected to one sided contracts in favour of the processors & packers. The re-establishment of the MMB will help create a fair trade market place.petition.parliament.uk
Just asking with all the talk about contracts just now, I dont think they will make the market fair or even for all producers.
Is this the answer ?
I think it’s healthy for the market that a new entrant has too consider where they may sit with a potential purchaser before they proceed. We are still seeing the unwinding of the MMB effect with regard to dairy farm location. I used to be in the spud game, when 20% of your gross output is haulage ex-farm it focuses your mind on the way forward.Fair enough but I bet you've been aligned for a good 10 years or more. I'm not saying that it's your fault, it would be ridiculous if I suggested it was, but you have to feel some sympathy towards those new entrants who are trying to make their way in the world and have become beholden to a rubbish milk price, completely through no fault of their own, whereas those established privileged businesses that are aligned are romping away and laughing all the way to the bank.
The MMB were on top of the game of distribution,
This finished the job coop wise, completely ridiculous in the circumstances of being a part of the EU.Labour bought in, when they split up Milk Marque, which stated that no organisation could have more than 40% of the
milk supply under it's control. That could be a start.
I don’t see aligned as the golden goose, it’s a premium contract based on factory proximity.
Try telling that to the Tesco producers in Aberdeenshire.
The MMB were on top of the game of distribution, the only people on top of that game these days are .........
the supermarkets. It what gives them the "edge" over processors, and you will have a problem getting people
with the necessary expertise and knowledge to start a distribution business from scratch. It will involve front-loading
a fledgling business with costs, which the dairy farmers will be expected to to dig deep to pay for it. I cannot see the
Government wanting to find the money.
When the price of cattle on the hook fell last autumn to just above £3, the Govt'
response was that "this was all part of the natural business cycle, and we don't interfere in the business cycle". No, i
cannot see the Government falling over themselves to start a new MMB.
What they could do is to revoke the ruling, which
Labour bought in, when they split up Milk Marque, which stated that no organisation could have more than 40% of the
milk supply under it's control. That could be a start.
So were they not near the factory, I don’t know their story?Try telling that to the Tesco producers in Aberdeenshire.
So were they not near the factory, I don’t know their story?
No it's not, alot of milk can be produced in quite a small area, every non-aligned dairy farmer in the UK will start to feel the effects of an oversupply of milk coming from the aligned pools, in fact it's already happening...I think your issue is area specific.
No but other areas may have a greater choice of processors. Unless they have refused to recognise the move to More solids based contracts. Then they are buggered.No it's not, alot of milk can be produced in quite a small area, every non-aligned dairy farmer in the UK will start to feel the effects of an oversupply of milk coming from the aligned pools, in fact it's already happening...
Too many greedy b*stards who would go to whoever paid them .1 ppl more killed the milk market. Divide and rule by the processors.
Now, so many sellers seem too scared to kick up a fuss.
Please give evidence of over 50% of suppliers being fecked ?@bar718 No I would not expect anyone with an Arla or aligned contract to sign up to it , and like you I don't think if they got 100,000 to sign it would happen.
But the British market is fecked for over 50% of suppliers, and if the NFU think they are going to solve it without doing something about aligned contracts and retailer dominance
we are still going to be in a mess years from now.
Being fecked is when you are with a milk buyer who is paying you less than it costs you to produce it and they know it, and when the same buyer with retailer contracts pay some of the suppliers enough to cover their costs and a little bit for profit. Its the have's and the have not's............ simples !!Please give evidence of over 50% of suppliers being fecked ?
Or at least your definition of being fecked.