Another tragic farm accident.

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
My dad won't take a mobile phone with him ever! Has 3 or 4 lying in a drawer in the kitchen. It drives mum mad, he goes off to our hill ewes with the quad and might not be back for hours. And we know he has tipped the quad once before because it came back with bent handlebars.
Wonder if we can get some sort of a GPS tracker injected in the back of his neck?!
He's maybe got a girlfriend and doesn't want your mum to know where he is!?
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
My dad won't take a mobile phone with him ever! Has 3 or 4 lying in a drawer in the kitchen. It drives mum mad, he goes off to our hill ewes with the quad and might not be back for hours. And we know he has tipped the quad once before because it came back with bent handlebars.
Wonder if we can get some sort of a GPS tracker injected in the back of his neck?!
If he's had his covid vaccination, Bill Gates will know where he is, and what he's doing!!!
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Should tractors that are being designed now , have a lock out safety button that when switched on isolates the hydraulics and the pto.
Similar to what is fitted to some combines .

On my new deutz, nothing works when you start it and everything stops when you lift off the seat (annoying when hitching up a trailer). Annoying when you stall, working in a field (modern 4 cyl, so not unusual to start with) as you have to press a thousand buttons to be up and running again
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Its interesting the things that go through your mind as you feel your body shutting down. I was very lucky we did exactly what your told not to. When I was found they moved the forklift. You shouldn't do this due to poisoned blood below pinch point going through your system and shutting you down.
You can get toxins released from muscle damage after a long crush injury but if you can't breathe or the circulation to your leg is at risk then I want someone to release me soon as possible.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
A very good question.
Understandably at times like these everyones sympathies are with the friends and family , but if we are to learn from yet another tragic loss it would be helpful to know what exactly happened

I agree.
Now isn't the time for this particular accident but all accidents have investigations. I'm not sure if they're all made public when finished but they should be, then people will realise how quickly things can go wrong.

I know someone who died because of poor routines and too much rushing when unhitching a trailer from a truck. Knowing what happened means it still pops into my head automatically, every time I do the same job.

There have been threads on quite a few accidents on here over the years, perhaps there could be somewhere to just list the accident reports (if they exist) and not allow comments?
 

cattleman123

Member
Location
devon
I agree.
Now isn't the time for this particular accident but all accidents have investigations. I'm not sure if they're all made public when finished but they should be, then people will realise how quickly things can go wrong.

I know someone who died because of poor routines and too much rushing when unhitching a trailer from a truck. Knowing what happened means it still pops into my head automatically, every time I do the same job.

There have been threads on quite a few accidents on here over the years, perhaps there could be somewhere to just list the accident reports (if they exist) and not allow comments?
What a great idea, we all do silly things and get away with it, a reminder of what could happen would focus us all that bit more.
 
I agree.
Now isn't the time for this particular accident but all accidents have investigations. I'm not sure if they're all made public when finished but they should be, then people will realise how quickly things can go wrong.

I know someone who died because of poor routines and too much rushing when unhitching a trailer from a truck. Knowing what happened means it still pops into my head automatically, every time I do the same job.

There have been threads on quite a few accidents on here over the years, perhaps there could be somewhere to just list the accident reports (if they exist) and not allow comments?
Yes in another life I was a marine engineer and they have a booklet published by the Marine accident investigation board which is a summary of the events of an accident as they have investigated it very informative and does highlight how things can go wrong, it is the only way to learn unfortunately,, by the mistakes
 
Yes in another life I was a marine engineer and they have a booklet published by the Marine accident investigation board which is a summary of the events of an accident as they have investigated it very informative and does highlight how things can go wrong, it is the only way to learn unfortunately,, by the mistakes

Quite a number of years ago I was a member of a gliding club. The magazine for the sport, Sailplane and Gliding, had a column called 'I learnt a lot from that'. In it individuals wrote anonymously about an occurrence, or oversight that could have landed them in a serious position. Though any serious accident has to have an official investigation and analysis, this personal recollection helped me at least to learn from the mistakes of others as well as from my own mistakes.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
Yes in another life I was a marine engineer and they have a booklet published by the Marine accident investigation board which is a summary of the events of an accident as they have investigated it very informative and does highlight how things can go wrong, it is the only way to learn unfortunately,, by the mistakes
just a thought.
There are many people on here from other industries, such as marine, air, rail etc. Each of these industries have excellent investigation systems and reports.
As mentioned above, it would be an excellent idea, in my opinion, if such a thing existing for agriculture, to collate the reports in a section with no comments allowed - a library to learn from.
If an agriculture one does nto exists, maybe we could collate reports from other industries, as it is often recognised on here how the lessons are transferable across various idurstried?
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
just a thought.
There are many people on here from other industries, such as marine, air, rail etc. Each of these industries have excellent investigation systems and reports.
As mentioned above, it would be an excellent idea, in my opinion, if such a thing existing for agriculture, to collate the reports in a section with no comments allowed - a library to learn from.
If an agriculture one does nto exists, maybe we could collate reports from other industries, as it is often recognised on here how the lessons are transferable across various idurstried?
I'd really love to see this happen.

The AAIB accident reports are a bit too long and detailed but are a good start as they allow you to fully understand the context in which the accident happened, the chain of events that fundamentally caused it and the outcome (minor / write-off / minor injury / major injury / death).

Ideally each report would fit on one page and comprise something like:

Outcome
Context
Sequence of events
Key causes
Recommendations to avoid repeat
 
It is interesting that the nuclear and aviation industries have a very good incident reporting system where they are freely discussed and circulated within their respective spheres so that all, even competing companies, can learn from them. They also have a system of forward accountability rather than retrospective accountability which is just an attempt to place blame.
 
I was very lucky we did exactly what your told not to. When I was found they moved the forklift. You shouldn't do this due to poisoned blood below pinch point going through your system and shutting you down.

Not a lot of people know that and some that do may well forget in the heat of the moment. So glad that you survived and lived to tell the story. (y)
 
Lost an older brother in a motorcycle RTA, in the days before helmets were compulsory for motorcyclists. Always wore a skidlid when I eventually moved into motorcycling my self and would feel naked without a hard hat,

Spent most of my working life in the heavy chemical industry and always wore a hard hat; which saved me more than once.

Always think S A F E ...... Stop Assess Focus Exercise

How many times a year do you folks bang your heads, when a bump cap would avoid you having a sore head for days?

I think that many accidents occur when ones mind is distracted by troubling events.
 
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