Carbon emissions ??

[puppet]

There will be a target of CO2 per kg meat or litre of milk. It is a sexy thing for retailers to provide although I would like to see it properly broken down through the food chain. It already exists in carbon audits where we were benchmarked as medium even though we still seem to use wheelbarrows and forks daily.
The calculator used attributed 73% of emissions to manure management or enteric production, only 6% to purchased feed and 3% fuel.
So cows are bad?
Well, not as much if the calculator took grass sequestration into account as it does in other countries.

 

[Macsky]

Nothing to be scared of in a carbon audit,I’ve done three of them now and the one thing I can say is that they are only as good as the figures that are inputed.

Just think ebv’s for the air.

 

[Tarw Coch]

The calculator used attributed 73% of emissions to manure management or enteric production, only 6% to purchased feed and 3% fuel.
So cows are bad?
Well, not as much if the calculator took grass sequestration into account as it does in other countries.

Just yesterday I was talking to a farmer who had had a carbon audit, they wanted him to put cubicles back in that he had pulled out in favour of lose housing because slurry was somehow considered better that straw muck.
I think he was as mystified as me.

 

[The Ruminant]

There will be a target of CO2 per kg meat or litre of milk. It is a sexy thing for retailers to provide although I would like to see it properly broken down through the food chain. It already exists in carbon audits where we were benchmarked as medium even though we still seem to use wheelbarrows and forks daily.
The calculator used attributed 73% of emissions to manure management or enteric production, only 6% to purchased feed and 3% fuel.
So cows are bad?
Well, not as much if the calculator took grass sequestration into account as it does in other countries.

Also the calculator should take into account the carbon removed from the air by the growing plant that, eventually, became manure or enteric-produced gas. Matter (inc carbon!) can be neither created nor destroyed, and yet the calculators only look at the emissions half of the equation.

 

[delilah]

The calculator used attributed 73% of emissions to manure management or enteric production, only 6% to purchased feed and 3% fuel.

That will be the same calculator that Mike Berners Lee uses when he works out that UK beef is 1000 times worse for the environment than imported plant based protein, it is a calculator that counts methane burped by cows as being equal to methane released from fossil fuels. It is his figures that get used by the media. And it is his figures that our representative bodies refer to when they apologize for your cows.

Just yesterday I was talking to a farmer who had had a carbon audit, they wanted him to put cubicles back in that he had pulled out in favour of lose housing because slurry was somehow considered better that straw muck.
I think he was as mystified as me.

Which is precisely why the NFU need to tell Defra to do one. Now, before all this bollox becomes entrenched in everyone's thinking.

 

[Tarw Coch]

That will be the same calculator that Mike Berners Lee uses when he works out that UK beef is 1000 times worse for the environment than imported plant based protein, it is a calculator that counts methane burped by cows as being equal to methane released from fossil fuels. It is his figures that get used by the media. And it is his figures that our representative bodies refer to when they apologize for your cows.



Which is precisely why the NFU need to tell Defra to do one. Now, before all this bollox becomes entrenched in everyone's thinking.

Agreed, although in the case of the audit I mentioned it was Promar doing the audit, owned by Genus who were originally a fully farmer owned company

 

[SilliamWhale]

The same reason that the Covid restrictions have been revoked despite rising cases and that the Olympics are going ahead.

"Economics" trumps all other concerns, politically.

Is it not that the cases aren't really developing into a hospital problem?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Is it not that the cases aren't really developing into a hospital problem?

We are running at over 1000 hospitalisations a day and modeling predicts a peak of around 2000 (said Prof Neil Ferguson of SAGE in a media piece a couple of days ago).

That's a big hospital problem.

 

[SilliamWhale]

We are running at over 1000 hospitalisations a day and modeling predicts a peak of around 2000 (said Prof Neil Ferguson of SAGE in a media piece a couple of days ago).

That's a big hospital problem.

What is a hospitalisation? How many come in and go out - they don't tell us about discharges etc. We have 1200 hospitals in the UK and 1.4 million NHS staff. I've ignored Neil Ferguson long ago.