Cheap ass strip till drill idea

Nitrams

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Cornwall
Why wont this work then?
Using what I have, subsoiler, changing legs to low disturbance, then use a long and short suffolk coulter to drill into strip behind the leg. In an ideal world then a press wheel to run after the coulter or a double disc coulter with a press wheel instead of suffolks.
 

alomy75

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As above; very dependant on soil type. When it’s dry and hard on some of my heavier stuff even a low disturbance leg will rake up a big old lump which would be very difficult to ‘drill’ into. I’d echo the disc coulter suggestion and put it behind the packer but assuming your 450-500 spacing on your subsoiler that’s going to be too wide for cereals in a single coulter surely? You could have a full complement of coulters say with a 250 spacing? You don’t have to only follow the leg?
 

Nitrams

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Location
Cornwall
I was thinking 330mm spacing and if the slot is wide enough run a long and short coulter down each edge of the slot at 100mmto125mm apart, hopefully get enough trash flow that way. May be a job to get a wide enougj slot unless running a shoe fairly shallow. Agreed the tine could bring up a lumpy bed. If the coulter will bury the seed i had in mind to make a dd packer out of some old d's and run the 'd' down the slot to press the consolidate the seed channel.
 

digger64

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I was thinking 330mm spacing and if the slot is wide enough run a long and short coulter down each edge of the slot at 100mmto125mm apart, hopefully get enough trash flow that way. May be a job to get a wide enougj slot unless running a shoe fairly shallow. Agreed the tine could bring up a lumpy bed. If the coulter will bury the seed i had in mind to make a dd packer out of some old d's and run the 'd' down the slot to press the consolidate the seed channel.
how about an old maize drill with a large pigtail tine mounted in front ?
 

Nitrams

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Location
Cornwall
how about an old maize drill with a large pigtail tine mounted in front ?
I prefer the idea of a rigid tine for a consistent depth, I assume you mean just run the discs off a maize drill, that could be a good idea other then trying to plant 2 rows in a slot.
Having a slot for every row on a standards ish spacing would be too much disturbance. How wide a rows can you get away with...250mm?
 

digger64

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I prefer the idea of a rigid tine for a consistent depth, I assume you mean just run the discs off a maize drill, that could be a good idea other then trying to plant 2 rows in a slot.
Having a slot for every row on a standards ish spacing would be too much disturbance. How wide a rows can you get away with...250mm?
you could perhaps move the boxes in and use the fert box for seed , the seeder unit would control the depth ,the roller consolidate like a big beet drill , the tine just cultivate the strip in front , I remember seeing one with a kkk spring tine in front to move turf sods away from the drill units on ploughed work but you would need something stronger though for un broken land I think .
 

Clive

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Location
Lichfield
suffolk coulters block very essy and have no pressure to speak of

use a simple tine instead with a tube down the bank of it

you will need something to close the slot and consolidate after it - harrow / packer roller
 

Fendt820

Member
Simba free flow tines would be better than a Suffolk. And also has a full width tyre packer.pull legs off front and put deeper legs where u want and job done. Lots of room under it for trash simple well built.
 

Nitrams

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Location
Cornwall
suffolk coulters block very essy and have no pressure to speak of

use a simple tine instead with a tube down the bank of it

you will need something to close the slot and consolidate after it - harrow / packer roller
Thinking of using dd packer but just line the d s with the slot. Suffolks woulnt block any easier then they do now, would be more suited to kinder land tho but its surprising how you can tension a suffolk to get it in th soil
 

Nitrams

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Location
Cornwall
Simba free flow tines would be better than a Suffolk. And also has a full width tyre packer.pull legs off front and put deeper legs where u want and job done. Lots of room under it for trash simple well built.
Did think about using the cultipress i have, just put a boot behind front leg for seed and add front depth control. If it was a 3mtr i could put the strip cultivator on the front but its a 5.5 and wouldnt pull it if working front legs deep
 

Clive

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NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
I’ve honestly never heard of anyone direct drilling with a Suffolk coulter - they belong firmly in the av history books now

A tine is much simpler than and way better to get in the ground
 

Brisel

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Midlands
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Weaving Coulter kit
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The Sumo version looks stronger.
 

Nitrams

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Location
Cornwall
I’ve honestly never heard of anyone direct drilling with a Suffolk coulter - they belong firmly in the av history books now

A tine is much simpler than and way better to get in the ground
Thats probably why im thinking about using one then, always a scat behind here.

Still the original question was would it work assuming kinder ground and lowish trash levels.

Buying tines or disc coulters would be a much better job but my idea of cheap is a few boxes of welding rods and using up spare material.
 

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

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