Cheap ass strip till drill idea

[Nitrams]

Why wont this work then?
Using what I have, subsoiler, changing legs to low disturbance, then use a long and short suffolk coulter to drill into strip behind the leg. In an ideal world then a press wheel to run after the coulter or a double disc coulter with a press wheel instead of suffolks.

 

[Stuart J]

That's far to cheap and simple to work surely...

 

[average farmer]

I don’t think Suffolk coulters would have enough pressure unless you’re on some nice land . Better with a disc !

 

[Stuart J]

I don’t think Suffolk coulters would have enough pressure unless you’re on some nice land . Better with a disc !

That'll surely depend on the amount of tilth created by the leading leg?

 

[clbarclay]

Or just use a tine coulter and end up like most strip till drills already are.

 

[Nitrams]

Or just use a tine coulter and end up like most strip till drills already are.

No doubt that would be a better option but the breif was cheap and using what i have.

 

[hollister]

Tine spacing and trash handling is another factor you need to consider.

 

[alomy75]

As above; very dependant on soil type. When it’s dry and hard on some of my heavier stuff even a low disturbance leg will rake up a big old lump which would be very difficult to ‘drill’ into. I’d echo the disc coulter suggestion and put it behind the packer but assuming your 450-500 spacing on your subsoiler that’s going to be too wide for cereals in a single coulter surely? You could have a full complement of coulters say with a 250 spacing? You don’t have to only follow the leg?

 

[Nitrams]

I was thinking 330mm spacing and if the slot is wide enough run a long and short coulter down each edge of the slot at 100mmto125mm apart, hopefully get enough trash flow that way. May be a job to get a wide enougj slot unless running a shoe fairly shallow. Agreed the tine could bring up a lumpy bed. If the coulter will bury the seed i had in mind to make a dd packer out of some old d's and run the 'd' down the slot to press the consolidate the seed channel.

 

[digger64]

I was thinking 330mm spacing and if the slot is wide enough run a long and short coulter down each edge of the slot at 100mmto125mm apart, hopefully get enough trash flow that way. May be a job to get a wide enougj slot unless running a shoe fairly shallow. Agreed the tine could bring up a lumpy bed. If the coulter will bury the seed i had in mind to make a dd packer out of some old d's and run the 'd' down the slot to press the consolidate the seed channel.

how about an old maize drill with a large pigtail tine mounted in front ?

 

[Nitrams]

how about an old maize drill with a large pigtail tine mounted in front ?

I prefer the idea of a rigid tine for a consistent depth, I assume you mean just run the discs off a maize drill, that could be a good idea other then trying to plant 2 rows in a slot.
Having a slot for every row on a standards ish spacing would be too much disturbance. How wide a rows can you get away with...250mm?

 

[digger64]

I prefer the idea of a rigid tine for a consistent depth, I assume you mean just run the discs off a maize drill, that could be a good idea other then trying to plant 2 rows in a slot.
Having a slot for every row on a standards ish spacing would be too much disturbance. How wide a rows can you get away with...250mm?

you could perhaps move the boxes in and use the fert box for seed , the seeder unit would control the depth ,the roller consolidate like a big beet drill , the tine just cultivate the strip in front , I remember seeing one with a kkk spring tine in front to move turf sods away from the drill units on ploughed work but you would need something stronger though for un broken land I think .

 

[Clive]

suffolk coulters block very essy and have no pressure to speak of

use a simple tine instead with a tube down the bank of it

you will need something to close the slot and consolidate after it - harrow / packer roller

 

[Fendt820]

Simba free flow tines would be better than a Suffolk. And also has a full width tyre packer.pull legs off front and put deeper legs where u want and job done. Lots of room under it for trash simple well built.

 

[Nitrams]

suffolk coulters block very essy and have no pressure to speak of

use a simple tine instead with a tube down the bank of it

you will need something to close the slot and consolidate after it - harrow / packer roller

Thinking of using dd packer but just line the d s with the slot. Suffolks woulnt block any easier then they do now, would be more suited to kinder land tho but its surprising how you can tension a suffolk to get it in th soil

 

[Nitrams]

Simba free flow tines would be better than a Suffolk. And also has a full width tyre packer.pull legs off front and put deeper legs where u want and job done. Lots of room under it for trash simple well built.

Did think about using the cultipress i have, just put a boot behind front leg for seed and add front depth control. If it was a 3mtr i could put the strip cultivator on the front but its a 5.5 and wouldnt pull it if working front legs deep

 

[Clive]

I’ve honestly never heard of anyone direct drilling with a Suffolk coulter - they belong firmly in the av history books now

A tine is much simpler than and way better to get in the ground

 

[Matt77]

Brings back memories of trying to power harrow drill into stubble year's ago, the accord drill just turned into a straw rake!

 

[Brisel]

Weaving Coulter kit

The Sumo version looks stronger.

 

[Nitrams]

I’ve honestly never heard of anyone direct drilling with a Suffolk coulter - they belong firmly in the av history books now

A tine is much simpler than and way better to get in the ground

Thats probably why im thinking about using one then, always a scat behind here.

Still the original question was would it work assuming kinder ground and lowish trash levels.

Buying tines or disc coulters would be a much better job but my idea of cheap is a few boxes of welding rods and using up spare material.