Costing Farm saved seed.

[Phil P]

As it’s to windy to go spraying or spreading I’m just doing a spot of benchmarking on my inputs and I’m wondering how others cost there fss?

Are you using -

A. cop + seed dressing + Royalties

B. X farm prices + seed dressing + Royalties

If you’re using option B are you taking the average sale price for the year or the price on the day?

May be a good one for @Clive @Brisel @Feldspar I know you like to crunch the numbers?

 

[Adeptandy]

I'd go for option B average price for sales that growing year.

 

[snarling bee]

ditto, plus cost of bags and a bit of hassle factor (often end up going to a neighbour to borrow a trailer etc.)

 

[T Hectares]

Option B @ average sale price for year + bags + germ / health test results.

I don't account for hassle factor as that tonnage of grain would have to be loaded out and the bought in seed unloaded

 

[SilliamWhale]

If you have to twit about with a seed cleaning contracter and treatment then its less exciting.

Nothing wrong with replanting untreated seed that had a few spins in the mobile dryer and shoved into 1 ton spud seed bags. Then you save money!

 

[deleted user 837354]

If you have to twit about with a seed cleaning contracter and treatment then its less exciting.

Nothing wrong with replanting untreated seed that had a few spins in the mobile dryer and shoved into 1 ton spud seed bags. Then you save money!

Even better to chuck in a heap in the corner of a shed and shovel it in but not all drills will do it.

 

[Adeptandy]

Even better to chuck in a heap in the corner of a shed and shovel it in but not all drills will do it.

Discovered that this spring

 

[deleted user 837354]

Discovered that this spring

Can get those hopper things with a slide in the bottom. Weld brackets on and jobs a good un.

 

[Zippy768]

B

 

[Adeptandy]

Can get those hopper things with a slide in the bottom. Weld brackets on and jobs a good un.

I was thinking more of a bit of chaff or straw in the sample causing issues

 

[Chae1]

As it’s to windy to go spraying or spreading I’m just doing a spot of benchmarking on my inputs and I’m wondering how others cost there fss?

Are you using -

A. cop + seed dressing + Royalties

B. X farm prices + seed dressing + Royalties

If you’re using option B are you taking the average sale price for the year or the price on the day?

May be a good one for @Clive @Brisel @Feldspar I know you like to crunch the numbers?

You have to dry it at lower temperature. So that's a extra cost. Store it for 7 months if spring crop. Cost of getting seed tested. Plus additional handling.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I was thinking more of a bit of chaff or straw in the sample causing issues

Ah, now I wouldn't just scoop a load of grain off the heap without putting it through the cleaner first....

 

[Shutesy]

As it’s to windy to go spraying or spreading I’m just doing a spot of benchmarking on my inputs and I’m wondering how others cost there fss?

Are you using -

A. cop + seed dressing + Royalties

B. X farm prices + seed dressing + Royalties

If you’re using option B are you taking the average sale price for the year or the price on the day?

May be a good one for @Clive @Brisel @Feldspar I know you like to crunch the numbers?

Option B, used the average price that we sold all that crop for, had to buy bags this year as well but hopefully they should do a few years. All come up lovely and definitely saved money over buying in seed. Gone from buying everything to farm saving winter and spring barley, possibly wheat next year and the OSR was FSS but CSFB still ate it, will probably save peas and beans as well this year.

 

[Zippy768]

Option B, used the average price that we sold all that crop for, had to buy bags this year as well but hopefully they should do a few years. All come up lovely and definitely saved money over buying in seed. Gone from buying everything to farm saving winter and spring barley, possibly wheat next year and the OSR was FSS but CSFB still ate it, will probably save peas and beans as well this year.

Do you have special re-usable bags?

 

[Shutesy]

Do you have special re-usable bags?

The bags we get from Anglia Grain Services are re-useable, loop on each corner as well as the main bag lift loop, nice wide tops for filling, a good strong bag throughout. Its just keeping the mice out over winter that's the biggest issue.

 

[Chae1]

I never knew you got bags that weren't reusable. Some of mine been refilled 4-5 times. Can get over 600kg of undressed spring barley in them if filled right up.

 

[ajd132]

We are generally using untreated seed now. The cost of a test is minimal.

 

[SilliamWhale]

You have to dry it at lower temperature. So that's a extra cost. Store it for 7 months if spring crop. Cost of getting seed tested. Plus additional handling.

Admittedly testing can get expensive ie its not far off £200 for a test so for a small batch maybe pricey. I don't ever tend to dry seed but usually can find a day to get it in at 16%. Handling can be really simple - stick it in an old seed bag of spuds and then into the corner of the shed if not treating. Buy in some treated seed every 2-5 years

 

[Hard Graft]

b what we average we sell at + royalties + cleaning (do it our selfs )
We sell all grain at harvest so have some sacks that hold 1.25t of barely and the hot spot spear fits nicely so run these to dry and cool. for A week and the spring seed does keep well , we also fill the bags out off the combine

 

[Spencer]

Option B here.. just fill bags off dryer! Undressed but tested clear