Dipping after crovect

[Macsky]

I’ve just treated lambs with crovect, but with a bit of fly starting on a couple of ewes I’d rather dip the whole lot, as it happens the dipper man can be here tomorrow, could the crovect treated lambs be dipped tomorrow or would it be better to shed them off?

I’d rather dip them as I’ve another lot of lambs that will be sold with them, so that they all look the same, but obviously not if it’s going to do them harm

 

[livestock 1]

I wouldn’t think it will matter
It might depend on what he’s using to dip with
SP dip is Cypermethrin same ingredient as crovect so you would be increasing the dose in effect
Golden Fleece is Diazinon so probably better than the above

 

[Macsky]

I wouldn’t think it will matter
It might depend on what he’s using to dip with
SP dip is Cypermethrin same ingredient as crovect so you would be increasing the dose in effect
Golden Fleece is Diazinon so probably better than the above

It’ll be gold fleece, diazinon

 

[Macsky]

Waiting on an answer from elanco, they didn’t say no immediately

 

[livestock 1]

Problem is they will usually say no to cover their arses
Wether it will do any harm is unlikely

 

[Macsky]

They’ve just called back, technical team says it’s safe but will obviously wash off the crovect so there won’t be any cover from it, which sounds obvious.

 

[ritchiekirkland]

I think if it’s fly cover your after Golden Fleece is a waste of time versus Crovect . You will get the 6-8 weeks cover with the Crovect , but if the flys are bad you will start getting struck sheep 3 weeks after dipping with the Gold Feece .
Good for scab and tick ect , waste of time for blowfly IMO

 

[Macsky]

I think if it’s fly cover your after Golden Fleece is a waste of time versus Crovect . You will get the 6-8 weeks cover with the Crovect , but if the flys are bad you will start getting struck sheep 3 weeks after dipping with the Gold Feece .
Good for scab and tick ect , waste of time for blowfly IMO

Do you think wool cover has got anything to do with it? too close to clipping and they don’t have the wool to hold onto it? Ewes were clipped over 4 weeks ago here so have a decent cover on them

 

[Macsky]

Data sheet calls for at least 1cm of wool cover, I’d imagine the more the better

 

[livestock 1]

I use Golden Fleece and put purl dip or black disinfect in with it it holds the dip on the sheep better and discourages flys
Not saying it’s what to do it’s just what I do and have done for 30 years or so

 

[sean m]

I think if it’s fly cover your after Golden Fleece is a waste of time versus Crovect . You will get the 6-8 weeks cover with the Crovect , but if the flys are bad you will start getting struck sheep 3 weeks after dipping with the Gold Feece .
Good for scab and tick ect , waste of time for blowfly IMO

anybody plunge dipping and getting strike after 3 weeks is not doing something correctly,and l'd lay money it's replenishment rate

 

[Macsky]

You’ll also only get 6-8 weeks cover from crovect on the bits that get sprayed with crovect

 

[livestock 1]

anybody plunge dipping and getting strike after 3 weeks is not doing something correctly,and l'd lay money it's replenishment rate

That dip is to top up even if you don’t put any water in which a lot of folks can’t get their heads around

 

[ritchiekirkland]

Yeah still not convinced!

 

[sean m]

Yeah still not convinced!

 

[ritchiekirkland]

Do you think wool cover has got anything to do with it? too close to clipping and they don’t have the wool to hold onto it? Ewes were clipped over 4 weeks ago here so have a decent cover on them

I think that more likely than the strength of the dip ie I know I had dip strong enough and topped up often enough

 

[andybk]

So whats available these days for plunge dipping , neighbour wants to use our mobile one , gold fleece op Around £270-330 / 5l , i see there is something called barrier d for organic systems

 

[MDL POWERUP]

So whats available these days for plunge dipping , neighbour wants to use our mobile one , gold fleece op Around £270-330 / 5l , i see there is something called barrier d for organic systems

Gold fleece here is £225 for a gallon

 

[Fat Lamb]

That dip is to top up even if you don’t put any water in which a lot of folks can’t get their heads around

The active ingredient in the dip strips out as you put sheep through. If your not topping up properly it's quite possible you could be putting sheep through nothing more than dirty water. Very easy to think "we'll just get the last 50 dipped with what's in the tub".

 

[Optimus]

Yeah still not convinced!

Did all mine at home 2 weeks ago.last year the winter clipped ones got nailed with fly strike from now till september.so back to the dip see if its any better.