Does Barnier really represent what national governments want out of a leaving deal or are some of them cursing him?

[Columella]

Oh my God!
Are you still here? On the Continent we were sure that Brexit was done and fineshed yet.

Out of jokes, Brexit is the last of our concerns.
Doesen't seems the same for you...

 

[Henarar]

as it should be

 

[Deranged peasant]

I’m sure you have all read the tweets between Barnier and Frost.
EU threatens to ban all UK food and ag exports to them if no deal.
This stated to make food exports to NI from rest of UK illegal.
Worth catching up on this gem, not reported on bbc news.

 

[Farmer1001]

I’m sure you have all read the tweets between Barnier and Frost.
EU threatens to ban all UK food and ag exports to them if no deal.
This stated to make food exports to NI from rest of UK illegal.
Worth catching up on this gem, not reported on bbc news.

I saw it on the BBC news yesterday but it was all over media at the weekend. That was some oven ready deal Boris signed up to.

 

[Danllan]

I’m sure you have all read the tweets between Barnier and Frost.
EU threatens to ban all UK food and ag exports to them if no deal.
This stated to make food exports to NI from rest of UK illegal.
Worth catching up on this gem, not reported on bbc news.

Yep, the EU ignore their own commitments but play merry hell if they think one to them is going to be.

 

[Hindsight]

I’m sure you have all read the tweets between Barnier and Frost.
EU threatens to ban all UK food and ag exports to them if no deal.
This stated to make food exports to NI from rest of UK illegal.
Worth catching up on this gem, not reported on bbc news.

Was on Newsnight last night in the reports. From what I can see good old Bojo in his bluster and to 'get Brexit done' last autumn signed up to a deal hoping the fine detail would not come back to haunt and that he could just bluster through. Now I recall we had a preview of the current debacle last December when he said, categorically, there would be no special arrangements for goods transmitting to Northern Ireland yet at the time some commentators disagreed - looks a bit like me signing upto an insurance policy adamant my interpretation of the policy is correct until it ocmes to making a claim. Hey ho.

 

[Hindsight]

Yep, the EU ignore their own commitments but play merry hell if they think one to them is going to be.

Ah well is that not life. Suppose this is another key stage in the negotiations - who is going to back down. Not helping Bojo that he has some Quislings in his side. I am not a follower of foreign news, maybe you are -- is there any countries in the UK preparing to defy the EU line on this - as that is what Bojo needs - for the other side to blink!?

 

[Danllan]

Ah well is that not life. Suppose this is another key stage in the negotiations - who is going to back down. Not helping Bojo that he has some Quislings in his side. I am not a follower of foreign news, maybe you are -- is there any countries in the UK preparing to defy the EU line on this - as that is what Bojo needs - for the other side to blink!?

I disagree, it's irrelevant what they do internally, we'll agree a fair deal or it's WTO, end of story.

But your use of the word 'defy' is very telling; they are supposedly 'sovereign' countries, but to act in their own rational interest they have to 'defy' an un-elected cabal that ignores agreements it's signed up to and then has a fit if it looks like that will happen to it...

In response to your question about who may 'defy', I don't think it matters in the way you mean, but I do think the 'unity' will cost a lot of money to maintain, if it does. The likes of Hungary and Poland will demand huge amounts to play ball, this may or may not be public, but they will do so and will get it. The Greeks are pretty angry at their recent treatment and the Italians and Spanish are still seething in re the CV-19 funds too.

It looks like there is a bit of animosity between us and the EU, and there may be but I suspect it's show on both sides really; but there is going to be real arguing within the EU over how much Germany and chums are going to have to pay the others to (bribe, in plain English) to do their bidding.

Quislings... didn't have much effect last night, we'll see if they can get any momentum.

 

[Hindsight]

I disagree, it's irrelevant what they do internally, we'll agree a fair deal or it's WTO, end of story.

But your use of the word 'defy' is very telling; they are supposedly 'sovereign' countries, but to act in their own rational interest they have to 'defy' an un-elected cabal that ignores agreements it's signed up to and then has a fit if it looks like that will happen to it...

In response to your question about who may 'defy', I don't think it matters in the way you mean, but I do think the 'unity' will cost a lot of money to maintain, if it does. The likes of Hungary and Poland will demand huge amounts to play ball, this may or may not be public, but they will do so and will get it. The Greeks are pretty angry at their recent treatment and the Italians and Spanish are still seething in re the CV-19 funds too.

It looks like there is a bit of animosity between us and the EU, and there may be but I suspect it's show on both sides really; but there is going to be real arguing within the EU over how much Germany and chums are going to have to pay the others to (bribe, in plain English) to do their bidding.

Quislings... didn't have much effect last night, we'll see if they can get any momentum.

Yes, that makes sense of it - among the politicizing I read and hear.

Never read to much into my choice of a word Danllan. I am not blessed with a particularly good education and have been known (on many occasions) to select the wrong word that I think means something different to what it actually means! And I am conscious (very much so actually) that folk with a better understanding of English Language can sometimes misconstrue what someone with not quite the in depth grasp of what a word means, means, when they use that word, if you see what I mean!!

May the fund and games continue. I was amused by the thought of a blockade referred to on the news last night. Thought it might get the Brexiter EU Army mob out on the airwaves again - but alas that joy was not lived.

Cheers.

 

[ollie989898]

I’m sure you have all read the tweets between Barnier and Frost.
EU threatens to ban all UK food and ag exports to them if no deal.
This stated to make food exports to NI from rest of UK illegal.
Worth catching up on this gem, not reported on bbc news.

And how on Earth are the EU going to enforce that? Send in the secret police? What is traded between the constituent parts of the UK is up to us, not some make-believe government in Brussels. The flow of goods and people between NI and the rest of the UK is sacrosanct, they are parts of the same union of countries. Any man who wants to claim otherwise better be prepared for a lot more than a diplomatic frowning session.

 

[ollie989898]

A quick look in a small retailer the other day showed as much European produce on the shelves as from other international producers. Believe me, there isn't much that can't be sourced from outside of Europe.

New potatoes from Egypt.

Melons from Guatemala.

Squashes from Peru.

Avocados from Argentina.

The tomatoes were from the Netherlands. The onions were from Holland. One switch in government policy to favour producers from Africa, the Middle East or North/South America and you will see product coming from there.

 

[Farmer1001]

A quick look in a small retailer the other day showed as much European produce on the shelves as from other international producers. Believe me, there isn't much that can't be sourced from outside of Europe.

New potatoes from Egypt.

Melons from Guatemala.

Squashes from Peru.

Avocados from Argentina.

The tomatoes were from the Netherlands. The onions were from Holland. One switch in government policy to favour producers from Africa, the Middle East or North/South America and you will see product coming from there.

New potatoes from Egypt, grown in sterile soil and irrigation water, using French fertiliser, packed in crates filled with Irish moss peat and then flown to Tesco - yep that’s the Brexit we voted for.

 

[Henarar]

New potatoes from Egypt, grown in sterile soil and irrigation water, using French fertiliser, packed in crates filled with Irish moss peat and then flown to Tesco - yep that’s the Brexit we voted for.

you maybe but we grow our own spuds

 

[Farmer1001]

you maybe but we grow our own spuds

So do we

 

[Henarar]

So do we

so its not the brexit you voted for

 

[ollie989898]

New potatoes from Egypt, grown in sterile soil and irrigation water, using French fertiliser, packed in crates filled with Irish moss peat and then flown to Tesco - yep that’s the Brexit we voted for.

I couldn't give a flying fudge.

 

[Ashtree]

Hang in there guys! Here comes Boris!

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[Farmer1001]

I couldn't give a flying fudge.

Your in the majority.

 

[Danllan]

New potatoes from Egypt, grown in sterile soil and irrigation water, using French fertiliser, packed in crates filled with Irish moss peat and then flown to Tesco - yep that’s the Brexit we voted for.

I certainly am happy selling engineering kit, with Japanese, American and Korean components in it, to the Germans, the Malaysians and others; and will continue to do so next year and beyond.

If there aren't enough spuds for the market from inside the UK - and Jersey too I guess - then yes, that is the Brexit that many voted for; what's wrong with what you describe - even with its exaggerations?

 

[yin ewe]

New potatoes from Egypt, grown in sterile soil and irrigation water, using French fertiliser, packed in crates filled with Irish moss peat and then flown to Tesco - yep that’s the Brexit we voted for.

They'll go nicely with my roast chlorinated American chicken. Is there a quality issue with French fertiliser or Irish peat moss?