would that be the same 'experts' that would advise me to plant trees along the river to stabilise the banks and add environmental quality? hmmm
Very roughly where is here???
That's the problem though. They have free reign now there protected. I'm not against wildlife have everything wild round us.soon have lynx an moose maybe even wolves at some point.Just as they did before we wiped them out. I'm not arguing that they don't make things to suit themselves, of course they do, just as all living things do, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. My point is that we have destroyed so much that is about time we a) stopped doing so, and b) make what amends we can.
As I stated in an earlier post, the beavers can't be allowed a free rein, but there's no reason why they can't be reintroduce, controlled, and landowners compensated as and where necessary.
See below for another point...
No, they 'really' are good comparisons, because they give us a datum from which the damage we have done can be measured.
Now, if you are against such re-introductions on 'principle', because it's 'wrong', that's just irrational dogma, and can't be argued with, it's nothing but time-wasting. But, if you aren't against them completely and wouldn't, for example, object to a large landowner having them - contained and controlled - on his own patch, then we have something to work from.
You heard wrong, it's not T Rex, it's the Bay City Rollers.
Just as they did before we wiped them out. I'm not arguing that they don't make things to suit themselves, of course they do, just as all living things do, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. My point is that we have destroyed so much that is about time we a) stopped doing so, and b) make what amends we can.
As I stated in an earlier post, the beavers can't be allowed a free rein, but there's no reason why they can't be reintroduce, controlled, and landowners compensated as and where necessary.
See below for another point...
No, they 'really' are good comparisons, because they give us a datum from which the damage we have done can be measured.
Now, if you are against such re-introductions on 'principle', because it's 'wrong', that's just irrational dogma, and can't be argued with, it's nothing but time-wasting. But, if you aren't against them completely and wouldn't, for example, object to a large landowner having them - contained and controlled - on his own patch, then we have something to work from.
Just as they did before we wiped them out. I'm not arguing that they don't make things to suit themselves, of course they do, just as all living things do, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. My point is that we have destroyed so much that is about time we a) stopped doing so, and b) make what amends we can.
As I stated in an earlier post, the beavers can't be allowed a free rein, but there's no reason why they can't be reintroduce, controlled, and landowners compensated as and where necessary.
See below for another point...
No, they 'really' are good comparisons, because they give us a datum from which the damage we have done can be measured.
Now, if you are against such re-introductions on 'principle', because it's 'wrong', that's just irrational dogma, and can't be argued with, it's nothing but time-wasting. But, if you aren't against them completely and wouldn't, for example, object to a large landowner having them - contained and controlled - on his own patch, then we have something to work from.
I turned on countryfile a couple of months ago, and they were on a national trust farm where they had blocked a river and let it flood the entire field! Not sure why? Apparently that is better for the environment? Worse for people who want to eat food, but fine if we just want to intensify farming overseas and import everything, maybe even cut down rainforests and clap ourselves on the back for "re wilding" the river meadow. Anyway, I guess beavers do the same to river meadows. I would not be happy if I had good river meadows that became flooded because of beaver dams and the beavers were protected and my fields would halve or more in value.would that be the same 'experts' that would advise me to plant trees along the river to stabilise the banks and add environmental quality? hmmm
well actually i did and do plant a few without their input anyway as ilike trees and they grow well along the moisty river margins, mind you they cost a fair bit to establish so beaver wont be welcome around here .
but further investigation seems there Could be a positive about it it seems the pelts are worth a fair price............
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Any expert advising planting trees on river banks to stabilise the bank is totally deluded, they only have to come to my garden to see the result of such stupid action 40 years later as those trees fall leaving huge holes in the bank. There are currently 5- 10 very large trees fallen across the river after last winters storms which have not been cleared thanks to CV. These trees, Now 60- 80 foot tall and trunks 4 foot + diameter , the result of a misguided plan to grow cricket bat willow on marshland opposite, have given the EA years of work clearing them .would that be the same 'experts' that would advise me to plant trees along the river to stabilise the banks and add environmental quality? hmmm
well actually i did and do plant a few without their input anyway as ilike trees and they grow well along the moisty river margins, mind you they cost a fair bit to establish so beaver wont be welcome around here .
but further investigation seems there Could be a positive about it it seems the pelts are worth a fair price............
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talking about "experts", we have a bare hedge bank between myself and my neighbor, I wanted to apply for Glastir small works to plant a hedge, however that option is not available on that field parcel, as, NRW (Natural Resources Wales) have deemed it a red squirrel habitat area, and I guess that somehow they like to live on bare grassland, but dislike hedges and trees! I emailed RPW (Rural Payment Wales) and they said NRW put it in a red squirrel area therefore that option is not available, emailed NRW, they said due to covid we will get back to you at some point! There may allegedly be red squirrels in the forest, however that is 5 fields away, and I think that is an example of "experts" completing office based desk top evaluations.I think your plan has merit, but only if the6 can be specifically trained to prey on ‘experts and government bodies’, before moving on to those that consider their opinions are of value.
Some on here and the nature do gooders think reintroducing Beavers is a good idea and wonderful for nature. BUT you mess with the balance at your peril. This makes interesting reading .....
Argentina brought beavers to Tierra del Fuego. It was not a good idea.
In 1946, the government wanted to create a fur industry. More than 70 years later, it’s clear the ecosystem wasn’t meant to cope with them.www.google.co.uk
