Landini Alpine 85, Duetz or equivalent for steep land work

[PuG]

Finally come the decision we need to invest in a tractor and looking for some ideas.

Main priority is that its very good on steep land, low COG, not massively tall but proportionally wide is fine. Up to 100hp. Front loader for stock feeding during the winter on out land, and helping the telescopic back on the farm on occasional break downs.

Ideally with front arms and PTO for land clearance with a front flail mower, perhaps a lightweight rear hedge trimmer.

We have looked at a few alpine tractors but not been totally convinced there up for all the jobs.

Reform Mounty tractor apart from being pricey seems light weight and probably cost a fortune on repairs. The other option is to go for a more ordinary tractor and then later invest in something like a Reform Metrac (https://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/slope-tractor/39982211/reform-2004-gs-ga680.html).

Our problem is the land that needs clearance is in place's very steep. Manageable mostly with our 7710, but shes tall so getting under the tree's are a problem, and I've fallen behind in jobs due to hydraulic problems.

I like Duetz and have been looking again at the Argofarm - but also noticed a few Landini Alpine 85 for sale second hand (which actually looks very similar?). I don't know anything about them.

Any recommendations? Our spending limit is no more than 30k, but hoping towards 20. Give and take, whether to pay and fit a front loader, or equally front arms/PTO.

This one looks good for the job - https://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/farm-tractor/39643537/landini-alpine-85.html

Thanks, James

 

[Fendtbro]

What your looking at is a fairly low hp tractor that is going to be short and therefore all over the place with a loader. For really steep ground I think you need a long low machine on shorter wheels and narrower tyres.
I would be looking at a smaller heavy duty 6cyl tractor like a jd 6610/20/30. Lightweight machines just won’t compete with standard agricultural build.

 

[Db990]

Have a look on Tunstall tractors website

 

[Thomas5060]

SAME Dorado or Explorer? Always seemed like a handy low tractor.

 

[Simon Chiles]

SAME Dorado or Explorer? Always seemed like a handy low tractor.

Isn’t a Same Dorado the same as a Deutz 5 series , just different colour tin work?

 

[daveydiesel1]

What about a lindner? I think they do a low tractor and there made from top quality stuf unlike some other manufactures small basic ranges

 

[le bon paysan]

Isn’t a Same Dorado the same as a Deutz 5 series , just different colour tin work?

I think so.
Most 100 hp tractors are not 'high' once you look under the body work. You tend to sit on top of the tractor which makes it feel uncomfortable.
Wheel centres out to 68" perhaps 72" but would go on narrower tyres, not 520x34 on the back.
Learnt to drive a 2 WD on some good banks back in the day.

 

[Thomas5060]

Isn’t a Same Dorado the same as a Deutz 5 series , just different colour tin work?

Could be wrong but I thought same had the far motion engine and the deutz had a Deutz engine?

 

[jellybean]

How about one of the bi-directional Antonio Carraro tractors?

 

[john432]

With your budget I would forget the Italian tractors, and smaller Deutz, not very good reviews on the reliability of them locally . I'd forget the front linkage and PTO idea for now and get a tidy MF 390T or 399 , twin up the wheels all around, or widen the existing , would be as good as anything.

 

[Tomr10]

With your budget I would forget the Italian tractors, and smaller Deutz, not very good reviews on the reliability of them locally . I'd forget the front linkage and PTO idea for now and get a tidy MF 390T or 399 , twin up the wheels all around, or widen the existing , would be as good as anything.

Was going to say low go old

 

[john432]

Was going to say low go old

A tidy 390t or 399 would probably appreciate in value as well, and be easy to maintain and fix.

 

[Tomr10]

I think sombody on here was looking to sell one

 

[Matthew Britton]

If you look at what is used around the alpine ski resorts it is often Linder that they use. Not cheap but I think they have a reputation similar to that of Fendt from the pre Agco days. https://www.lindner-traktoren.at/en/

 

[Matthew Britton]

Personally as much a I like Deutz I would steer away from anything from that stable as I am not convinced by their reliability. Only my opinion though and I have always liked Deutz engineering but these days they seem to be a bit cheap and not really any different from Same, Lamborghini or hurlliman who are all from the SDF. Valtra would probably be worth a look too.

 

[john432]

If you look at what is used around the alpine ski resorts it is often Linder that they use. Not cheap but I think they have a reputation similar to that of Fendt from the pre Agco days. https://www.lindner-traktoren.at/en/

We can all dream, but the op has a limited budget, another thing, besides purchasing, the insurance cost of £100k tractor is no joke.

 

[Matthew Britton]

We can all dream, but the op has a limited budget, another thing, besides purchasing, the insurance cost of £100k tractor is no joke.

He’s not got to buy a new one! I just put the kink there as they are little known outside of the alps as far as I know so thought a bit of back ground to my suggestion would be helpful. I am not sure I could sleep at night with the thought of having spent that much on a new tractor!

 

[john432]

Look this chap up on Facebook it's what he does for a living. Bleddyn Thomas Steep Ground Maintenance

 

[7740 man]

For the banks?

 

[H200GT]

SAME Dorado or Explorer? Always seemed like a handy low tractor.

SDF do a range of smaller sized 4wd circa 100hp tractors, plenty earning their keep on hill farms in north wales doing exactly the job in question, many fitted with loaders as well.

Most that have them seem to replace them like for like and they are generally liked and considered decent tractors. Certainly our Agroplus has been well liked, and In the last 17 years / 7k hours the only major repair its had was a head gasket that was easy to do.

Should be plenty Low hour examples about, pick the colour / brand you like most.