Leaf is it worth it?

[Hesstondriver]

roll your own

 

[chipchap]

I expect growers will just grow the oats free market, and very few will jump on board with PepsiCo.

 

[7610 super q]

If growers put their foot down and said " NO ", all this would end overnight.
Says the bloke that's still Red Tractor assured..........

 

[Widgetone]

Then theres the likes of sustainability models creeping in....

 

[steveR]

It may not surprise you but there isnt a premium they want you to grow it for the same as non-leaf stuff..... And then the annual audit £255.

Sounds you already know the answer...

 

[steveR]

I actually like Flahaven's oats, Irish yes, but independent which is good news.

I think Mornflake are independent... Same stable as LeaOakes?

 

[davidroberts30]

Then theres the likes of sustainability models creeping in....

So the traders can ofset their carbon against the farmers..
Foxtrot oscar

 

[PhilipB]

Do M&S still do their Field to fork assurance scheme?

I think they probably dropped that, went to LEAF, then decided this wasn't demanding enough.

My name appears on their packaging as "a farmer we know and trust". The trust isn't mutual.

 

[ollie989898]

I would not deal with anything connected to PepsiCo on principle.

 

[Barleymow]

If growers put their foot down and said " NO ", all this would end overnight.
Says the bloke that's still Red Tractor assured..........

do what i did don,t pay em anymore

 

[high plains drifter]

Grainco have trained someone to help farmers with their leaf applications, said at the last meeting to get started with it soon as the process takes a while

 

[Clive]

It may not surprise you but there isnt a premium they want you to grow it for the same as non-leaf stuff..... And then the annual audit £255.

tell them to stick it then

what kind of business willingly increases cost without any additional return for doing so ?

 

[Clive]

Grainco have trained someone to help farmers with their leaf applications, said at the last meeting to get started with it soon as the process takes a while

whoopee ! how about they spend their wages on actually offering a premium ?

 

[Y Fan Wen]

do what i did don,t pay em anymore

My shepherd, who is responsible for selling stock through the marts, has told me to stop my subscription.
My sub is due in the Summer so I will cancel the dd sometime in the Spring.

 

[Bruce Almighty]

We've been selling oats to Jordans for about 20 years.

It sounds like Quaker are doing it to keep up ?

Jordans used to be Conservation Grade, then they switched to Leaf about 5 years ago (maybe longer ?)

We do it it because the extra premium on the oats is more than the cost to us of being in Leaf.

It is a faff, but I enjoy the challenge / battle !

As a traditional mixed farm with SSSI grassland and stewardship schemes, it works for us.

 

[Brisel]

I believe that @PSQ used to grow for Quaker too.

Whilst I would be tempted to give Quaker the finger if they do no pay any kind of premium for the added value, the LEAF questionnaire does make you ask useful questions about how you farm. You can either try and use this tool to help your business, or not. I would say that LEAF can add more value than the cost, but I have not completed the full audit.

 

[bravheart]

If I ever get a holiday again I be checking boxes again. A bit before lockdown we were in a Caribbean supermarket and spied that box with a picture of the guy wearing the kilt on the front. Thinking that the contents could have been from here and processed in Fife I picked up the box and read the small print. Produced and processed in North America!!

It's a marketing con and made me wonder whether the growers have to jump through the same hoops with the same costs we have to fill the same boxes?

 

[Hindsight]

I buy the ASDA or Morrisons own brand. Sorry guys. Retail price of own brand is about 45% of the Scotts or Quaker branded product. Soz.

 

[tullah]

My neighbour had to go round every field boundary hedgerow and label on his plan every tree with a nut. A good exercise for a ten year olds pocket money.

 

[JLLM]

My neighbour had to go round every field boundary hedgerow and label on his plan every tree with a nut. A good exercise for a ten year olds pocket money.

Was that for M&S ? They do get very excited about that sort of thing.