Holsteinfriesian90
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Is the LIC sexed 4m? I was surprised to see that the crv grazing catalogue didn’t have any bulls available sexed.
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on a constituent contract, ticks all the boxes, how much, if any, hol blood in them, pretty certain you are 'pure' fr, just wondered if there had been careful use of hol over the years, as many ped breeders of all types have used a little, there is little doubt about why the hol replaced the fr, and for those that stayed with fr, they had to compete against the hol, or fail. So if you kept 'pure', you have had 40 years of improving the fr, so i presume the modern fr, is different to the ones of 40 yrs ago, just as the hol is different to those of 40 yrs ago, everything evolves around it's 'function' in society. For us, something akin to the early hol x, would suit us.
My last 10 months with British Friesians
on a constituent contract, ticks all the boxes, how much, if any, hol blood in them, pretty certain you are 'pure' fr, just wondered if there had been careful use of hol over the years, as many ped breeders of all types have used a little, there is little doubt about why the hol replaced the fr, and for those that stayed with fr, they had to compete against the hol, or fail. So if you kept 'pure', you have had 40 years of improving the fr, so i presume the modern fr, is different to the ones of 40 yrs ago, just as the hol is different to those of 40 yrs ago, everything evolves around it's 'function' in society. For us, something akin to the early hol x, would suit us.
Thank you for the "heads up" i will check this week with my customers that they will have the straws we need when we start serving .Sooooooo
We ordered some sexed semen from them in late January. We were informed it might not be available fair enough. We were asked to supply a substitute which we did. So last week we were informed that the original bull was not available and oh by the way neither is your substitute because we sold it to somebody else.
Suggestions on how I should approach the situation please.
on a constituent contract, ticks all the boxes, how much, if any, hol blood in them, pretty certain you are 'pure' fr, just wondered if there had been careful use of hol over the years, as many ped breeders of all types have used a little, there is little doubt about why the hol replaced the fr, and for those that stayed with fr, they had to compete against the hol, or fail. So if you kept 'pure', you have had 40 years of improving the fr, so i presume the modern fr, is different to the ones of 40 yrs ago, just as the hol is different to those of 40 yrs ago, everything evolves around it's 'function' in society. For us, something akin to the early hol x, would suit us.
just shows how far the hols have moved away from 'white water', the breeders will produce what the market requires, they have a massive gene pool to select from, whereas other breeds, are not so lucky. It would have been interesting to see, what 40yrs of intensive selective breeding, for the fr, would have been the end result. Perhaps the 'sweet point' will be the fr breeding up, and the hol breeding down, is where they meet.100% holstein should average 7300 as heifers which is a bit low for us but solid more than make up for it
Trust me white water Holsteins are still going strong in some herdsjust shows how far the hols have moved away from 'white water', the breeders will produce what the market requires, they have a massive gene pool to select from, whereas other breeds, are not so lucky. It would have been interesting to see, what 40yrs of intensive selective breeding, for the fr, would have been the end result. Perhaps the 'sweet point' will be the fr breeding up, and the hol breeding down, is where they meet.
Trust me white water Holsteins are still going strong in some herds
He's stolen my cream
Is how they make nut milk? With a team of squirrels?
Did not EU breeding companies have a breeding strategy to sort that out?Yes, although the Friesian has moved on from the days of the dumpy thing with bottle teats!
The number of Holstein herds that are cross breeding, or breeding back to the Friesian would suggest that the poor feet and infertility are not an acceptable compromise.Did not EU breeding companies have a breeding strategy to sort that out?
And was the North American problem with infertility and lameness an acceptable compromise with the holstein?
That many be why the Friesian has not made as much progress as the HolsteinWith the history of longevity in some holstein the ability to "adapt "is very quick!
It could well beThat many be why the Friesian has not made as much progress as the Holstein
Excellent components, but on how many kilos of milk / cow ,as its kilos of solids that matters not percentages alone
My last 10 months with British Friesians
100% holstein should average 7300 as heifers which is a bit low for us but solid more than make up for it
And to get to the real crux of milking cows the cost of getting those kgs of solids.Excellent components, but on how many kilos of milk / cow ,as its kilos of solids that matters not percentages alone