lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
Agents communication and timeliness aren’t the issue here. He ordered as soon as we had agreed on a selection and forwarded info from LIC as soo. As he had it.
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Farmer Keith
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- North Cumbria
£34 here but only 50 straws, like you say if it’s what you want/need it’s not too expensive.
I've used LIC for 20 years. Their biggest selling point to me is a good choice of proven bulls.
I wouldn't touch any genomics, especially from Irish breeding. Linear traits, especially udder support is huge to us as our cows are expected to do 550+ solids.
I've had loads of "grazing" catalogues from other companies recently and they're largely genomic and no printed linears. The grazing world doesn't have the reference population to rely on these.
I've also seen alot of printed breeding figures that are well out of date when you look them up on the latest proof run from NZAEL or EBI webapp.
I'd love more competition for LIC, they're massively complacent. The rest need to raise their game.
I wouldn't touch any genomics, especially from Irish breeding. Linear traits, especially udder support is huge to us as our cows are expected to do 550+ solids.
I've had loads of "grazing" catalogues from other companies recently and they're largely genomic and no printed linears. The grazing world doesn't have the reference population to rely on these.
I've also seen alot of printed breeding figures that are well out of date when you look them up on the latest proof run from NZAEL or EBI webapp.
I'd love more competition for LIC, they're massively complacent. The rest need to raise their game.
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
Quite agree. Before the switch to sexed semen I'd largely moved ambreed particularly for Jersey's.
Dead Rabbits
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- 'Merica
It definitely wasn’t for the sake of .50 that everyone switched from LIC. They didn’t have the semen when they said they would multiple times and weren’t upfront about it leaving us scrambling at the last minute. From memory sexed LIC was £25
Maybe. You said yourself that they won't be bothered, as they can sell to someone else. I don't have a very high opinion of their new manager. The important thing is that you get your cows in calf. Both @Cows 'n grass and @jerseycowsman for example are spring calving and using semen from other suppliers, others will be too, and doing well on it. Start looking before the others sell out, or can't get delivery to you when you want. LIC have set themselves up like a cult, but you can leave, you are right not to want to burn your bridges though.
frederick
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- south west
Just posting to see if farmer ed gives this page another look if there's a fresh post. They might have time to check internet but haven't got back to lazy yet. They last looked in Tuesday.
Martyn
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- South west
Lazy what bulls had you hoped to of used, maby forum members can see and post some alternatives.
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
Have managed to source them elsewhere thank you for the offer though. I think we have had some sex from cogent.
Holsteinfriesian90
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- Cornwall
Irish friesian?
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
Yeah. Have used a bit for yrs now. Looks like I may be using a lot more n the future
Ooh err Mrs!
- Location
- North West
Did anyone ever use a LIC bull MORTENSENS AWE?
Ordered a 100 straws in a moment of weakness in 2016 only got two cows from it left.
Ordered a 100 straws in a moment of weakness in 2016 only got two cows from it left.
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
So was that 25 heifer calves?
- Location
- North West
34 tagged to AWE and survived until weaning I didn't look to see when the exited the herd after that.
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
Did anyone ever use a LIC bull MORTENSENS AWE?
Ordered a 100 straws in a moment of weakness in 2016 only got two cows from it left.
Did anything in particular kill them off?
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
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- North West
No I cant see the culling reason for them just when they exited. We changed program in the meantime and not everything came across. I'll have a look in my Dad's book but his reasons are often not the same as mine!
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dinderleat
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- Wells
Is lazy not the only one then?Anyone got there email?
what a ducking balls up