Manitou 'Vario' transmission

[texelburger]

We have what claas call a vario ( it's a hydrostatic) and I think the transmission is the work of the devil. We will never out of choice have a hyro again. It's bad on the yard unless it's dead flat, couldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding and is awful in the field. You have to rev the balls of it to get moving then it takes off. If you back off the pedal then it stops as and when it wants. I've tried a manitou pivot and found it the same. Any rep who says they are the future should be fired out of a cannon and never be allowed in the industry again.

Might it worth getting Class to plug in the laptop and playing with the software to improve the torque? We had a tractor with a similar problem, a few years ago, and playing with the software completely transformed it.

 

[Andrew1983]

What’s the difference between hydrostatic and vario? The main thing that put me off buying a Kramer last year other than the very poor handbrake was the inability to coast the machine, with our JCB or old manitou with TC transmission when for example loading a lorry I can knock forlift into N and rev it hard to get the bucket up fast while continuing to roll forward. With the hydrostatic putting it in N was like putting brakes on it just stops. Otherwise if I wanted to rev it to lift faster it gains forward speed.

 

[Spud]

Not sure why you would constantly twist the dial, Set the two speeds and press the button to switch between the two or just control the forward speed by not giving it as much revs. Dial is really just for scrolling through menu's and setting speeds on preset button.

Must be different to the one we tried.

Can't be doing with faff and fiddle on a multi driver telehandler, it just increases cost and frustration

 

[Down farmer]

Must be different to the one we tried.

Can't be doing with faff and fiddle on a multi driver telehandler, it just increases cost and frustration

I can’t understand either why u had to change the speed dial to me the only difference is the driver because certainly easier to drive than a JCB only have to use the right foot like a cvt tractor

 

[Spud]

I can’t understand either why u had to change the speed dial to me the only difference is the driver because certainly easier to drive than a JCB only have to use the right foot like a cvt tractor

There was two dials to the right, max speed and oil flow.
Set it to flat out to get to a field to load bales.
Leave it set at 40kph and it's useless at slow speed close to the trailer, so turn it down to say 20k. Bit of a compromise close in, but ok. Then screaming it's tits off at 20k to get the next bale. Turn back up to get home, turn down in the yard again.
Utter ballache.
Automated power shift way better ime
But hey we're all different

 

[stevedave]

Might it worth getting Class to plug in the laptop and playing with the software to improve the torque? We had a tractor with a similar problem, a few years ago, and playing with the software completely transformed it.

It get the laptop every time it needs to regenerate.

 

[stevedave]

What’s the difference between hydrostatic and vario? The main thing that put me off buying a Kramer last year other than the very poor handbrake was the inability to coast the machine, with our JCB or old manitou with TC transmission when for example loading a lorry I can knock forlift into N and rev it hard to get the bucket up fast while continuing to roll forward. With the hydrostatic putting it in N was like putting brakes on it just stops. Otherwise if I wanted to rev it to lift faster it gains forward speed.

I don't think there is any difference not to drive anyway.
No you can't coast with them, I don't think they are much cop at loading lorries especially with the Claas with doesn't have a neutral on the shuttle switch its on a separate button.