New tractor versus used

GraemeJ

Member
Mixed Farmer
What is everyone’s thoughts on buying a new tractor against a used one. Pros and cons with both????
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
When buying new you know where you are, with the price of 2nd hand tractors, it's not temping imo. Nearly new is tempting ex hire etc, possible 8/10 grand saving.
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
if you want a new one,it’s easy enough to justify,I think about many things.Tyre wear is often forgotten,new tractors always come on new tyres,used ones rarely do,can be worth a couple grand,Finance will be better value on the new one,ex hire doesn’t appeal to me,not many will bother properly looking after a tractor if they only have it for a short time.If buying used I try to find one with around 1000 hours,ie around the time of the first big service that way you can make sure it is all done.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
If u get a 0% finance deal it often works out the new 1 doesnt cost much more than a fresh used, plus u have the benefit of buyin the spec u want. Pick a few brands u like and go shoppin, some dealers will have stock tractors sitting so could offer a better deal than factory orders
 

Richard Smyth

Member
Arable Farmer
Just been through this last year. Went new as all second hand units are overpriced in my mind.
Second hand with no warranty left just didn’t have a big enough gap to new and when I would add the options I required the gap was even smaller.
 

EddieB

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Staffs
I reckon a new one would cost me c. 40k more. It’s still got warranty, tyres are good, it suited me. If a new tractor of the size I want still cost around 400 tonnes of wheat instead of 800 tonnes (in an average year) then I would certainly be buying new.
 

box

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
I was just thinking about this the other day. The latest Deutz flyer turned up in the mailbox and I realised that I purchased my whole fleet for less than the price of one new ROPS 115hp Agrofarm.

Older used gear works well for me, it's cheap to buy, cheap to fix (unless you're paying to have it fixed) and cheap to run.

If I had money to burn, I would always buy a new tractor over a used equivalent. The local used market is full of overpriced machines which have spent their life covered in cow sh!t. May as well spend tha little bit extra and get the warranty, the new tyres, the new tractor smell and not inherit someone elses problems.
 
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I've been through this exercise recently. Looked at a new MF 5711 which was around £44k. Wasn't overly impressed with cab etc, felt built down to a price.

Came across a tidy MF 5610 on a 14 plate. Felt much better built, very comfortable quiet cab and no ad blue. Done 3000 hours and did a deal at just under £30k.

It feels right, and I've saved £14k. What happens over the next 10+ years will tell me if I'm right😄
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've been through this exercise recently. Looked at a new MF 5711 which was around £44k. Wasn't overly impressed with cab etc, felt built down to a price.

Came across a tidy MF 5610 on a 14 plate. Felt much better built, very comfortable quiet cab and no ad blue. Done 3000 hours and did a deal at just under £30k.

It feels right, and I've saved £14k. What happens over the next 10+ years will tell me if I'm right😄
Did similar here 2 years ago,second hand tractor had warranty,in which the hydraulic pump failed.(known fault and upgraded part fitted)

All done under warranty.

Very pleased with the tractor.
 
I’m not familiar with MF model numbers and am not sure how close the models are. But it strikes me that you have bought a 6 year old tractor with 3k hours and only saved £14k on a new one. That doesn’t strike me as a great deal.
My feeling was the 5610 was a better quality tractor than the 5711 which is one of the global series. The new equivalent of the 5610 is the 5710S which is around £54k which I couldn't afford

By buying second hand I think I have got a more up market model than I could afford buying new
 

Treg

Member
Location
Cornwall
I’m not familiar with MF model numbers and am not sure how close the models are. But it strikes me that you have bought a 6 year old tractor with 3k hours and only saved £14k on a new one. That doesn’t strike me as a great deal.
It would if you tried a MF 5711. Had one on demo very poor build quality.
 
What is everyone’s thoughts on buying a new tractor against a used one. Pros and cons with both????
Been round in circles with this and if I was doing 1500 hours per year and above then a new tractor with full warranty changed every 3 years or at the dealers discretion is where its at. If that tractor is charged at £20/hour (not including driver, fuel, insurance etc, its just the tractor cost) then over 3 years its earnt £90,000.

Anything under then I just don't see how new stacks up. I bought a tractor that was 3 years old with 3000 hours on it, new set of tyres, integrated RTK steering, front linkage, front pto, 4 spools, cvt gearbox, 50km/h blah blah blah for £65,000. Brand new at the time, same tractor was £120,000 with 3 years warranty. I intend to keep it and never sell it. It'll be good for 10,000 hours, yes with some repairs no doubt but £120,000 over 3 years would of cost £138,000 including interest where as ours has cost £74,750 including interest.

The other option is you buy new with the longest warranty possible, (think thats now 8 years) and make sure it stays on farm for 10 years.
 

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