New Tractor

[A Holt East Sussex]

Looking to buy a new 150 hp ish (plus boost) tractor.

Massey, Deutz, Case or New Holland?

Thoughts and experiences please?

TIA

 

[Fendt516profi]

Valtra @james ds @agri knives

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Massey is a very nice tractor, go very well, but the ones I've experienced seem to constantly have silly problems,

Never used a Deutz.

As most know Case and NH share the same engines and transmissions, however I do swing towards Case in terms of finish, ergonomics and operation. Our Cases have been very good for us, along with a good dealer which is why we've stuck with them.

Are you looking for a small frame 6 pot or a large frame 4 pot? Plenty of choice and specs.

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

Just been quoted the same money for an ex demo puma cvx 175 as a new maxxum 150 power shift.
What models do you run?
Payment terms and warranty are the best I've been offered so far

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Just been quoted the same money for an ex demo puma cvx 175 as a new maxxum 150 power shift.
What models do you run?
Payment terms and warranty are the best I've been offered so far

Is that the old shape Puma? (big square bonnet). I can imagine you would get a very good deal on ex demo compared to a new build.

We currently run a Maxxum 110 Multicontroller, semi powershift, a Maxxum 130CVX and have a Maxxum 145CVX on the way. We've had good terms offered but do look into/ask about the warranty side....

 

[7610 super q]

According to the 'perts on here, Massey gearboxes are crepe, NH don't have any brakes, Case are similar to NH, so probably haven't got any brakes either, Deutz are a bit meh, so that just leaves David Brown and Leyland.

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

And I suppose Fendt and John Deere aren't massively overpriced, don't have any faults, never break down and offer the best backup of all!

 

[manfromhill]

Looking to buy a new 150 hp ish (plus boost) tractor.

Massey, Deutz, Case or New Holland?

Thoughts and experiences please?

TIA

To be fair you would at least say what jobs your going to do weither you want cvt or what and try and narrow the question

 

[Matt77]

Just been quoted the same money for an ex demo puma cvx 175 as a new maxxum 150 power shift.
What models do you run?
Payment terms and warranty are the best I've been offered so far

No brainier, have you tried the CVX gearbox, I’d take that over the powershift, which I have at the moment, CVX in the replacement that’s for sure, take it the demo is well spec too?

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

Fair point. It'd do pretty much anything from mowing, round baling and bale carting to ploughing, subsoiling and combination drilling. Thinking of going down the sumo route as we have mainly sandy loam soils but someone said this morning that the sumo is good for deep cultivation but not very good if you want to lift the legs up and only go in about 3 or 4 inches for example? CVT would be nice but not essential

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

The demo is very high spec but is the older square bonnet and doesn't have front linkage or pto

 

[Matt77]

Fair point. It'd do pretty much anything from mowing, round baling and bale carting to ploughing, subsoiling and combination drilling. Thinking of going down the sumo route as we have mainly sandy loam soils but someone said this morning that the sumo is good for deep cultivation but not very good if you want to lift the legs up and only go in about 3 or 4 inches for example? CVT would be nice but not essential

Look at a Opico combi lift, can lift the legs out a bit or all the way, all from the seat, not a mounted one though

 

[Matt77]

The demo is very high spec but is the older square bonnet and doesn't have front linkage or pto

Would need a bit of thinking time but I’d be tempted to go CVX gearbox and retro fit front linkage if you need it, have to say I want front linkage on all tractors now, if only to encourage dropping weight off when not needed to save the tyres. Can’t retro fit CVX, but depends if you want new new, put CVX in that maxxum and I’d bet it jumps £10k

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

From what I can see anything with a cvx gearbox seems to hold it's value fairly well?

 

[A Holt East Sussex]

Has anyone ever dealt with the dealers Startin Tractors? They seem to stock a lot of tractors

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

There shouldn't be too much between the Active drive 8 powershift and the CVX, at least there wasn't when I priced them. Once you've gone to CVX though I'd be amazed if you ever wanted to go back.

 

[Lincsman]

According to the 'perts on here, Massey gearboxes are crepe, NH don't have any brakes, Case are similar to NH, so probably haven't got any brakes either, Deutz are a bit meh, so that just leaves David Brown and Leyland.

The leyland wasnt supplied new with brakes.