Pickup speed limits

[Doing it for the kids]

They can get caught by the VAT man too can't they?

I know a few who have despite having approved seats installed

 

[Robt]

I know a few who have despite having approved seats installed

The seats fitted in most disco commercials are fitted and invoiced as occasional seats. These fold down to allow the cargo department to be as designed for commercial use. You can’t fit original discovery seats and continue to claim it’s a commercial. I know this having had 4x disco 4’s and a shogun commercial. All totally legal. The seats aren’t that great for adults but that’s the trade off for tax saving (BIK) in my case

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Haha, here, like every other vehicle on the road, they are limited to the posted speed limit

What's the open road speed limit in NT?
Personally ,I never exceed 110. (Honestly)

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Fàrk me, how confusing is all that ?

why ?

Would you really expect common sense from "the land of dumb shít"???

 

[JP1]

A friend of mine has received a ticket for doing 71 on a dual carriageway.
apparently new pickups are limited to 60 on a dual carriageway and 50 on single carriageways!
Is this correct

Depends on the unladen weight - always has been

 

[JP1]

Ok I guess I should have known that! I’ve just bought a new Isuzu double cab do I need to weigh it the garage never mentioned it but ultimately I appreciate it’s my responsibility

Many of the Isuzu are ok for higher speed limit

 

[JP1]

It is quite simple really, and in the Highway Code.

it’s nothing to do with 2 wheel drive 4 wheel drive etc it’s simply if it’s a commercial vehicle. Standard discovery is a car, discovery commercial is taxed and treated as a commercial vehicle (van) and such should follow the rules for that class of vehicle. The waters do muddy as is it a car derived van such as a fiesta van or discovery van which I think you might be able to argue in court, but a pick up is out and out a commercial vehicle, hence why we all own them, and thus should follow commercial vehicle rules

Not so

 

[PI Stsker]

So it said you were doing 40 while your speedometer said 38?

Said I was doing 38 while Speedo said 40

 

[quavers]

use google maps to check your speed when driving , it shows your speed in the corner when giving directions . My hilux showing 73 mph is 69 mph using google

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Many of the Isuzu are ok for higher speed limit

Ford Ranger too heavy, so lower speed limits and I believe the Nissan Nevara is too.

 

[JJT]

Quite right. The 10% rubbish is to account for your Speedo being out not give you an extra 7mph before a ticket.
For example I know if I set my cruise Controll at 40 and go though the speed sign thing at the end of the village it says I’m doing 38. (5% out.) so in theory at 70 on cruise Controll I’m only doing 66.5mph. But this could go the other way also and mean you’re going faster than anticipated

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2001-03-12/debates/e08bd310-b9ce-4441-86ac-7e04348d8bdb/SpeedometerAccuracy

Best reference I could find, but speedometers can read over but never under actual speed.

 

[MF-ANDY]

I believe it would be more of an issue re commercial vehicle. Similar to a tranny van shouldn’t be in the outside lane of a motorway, should be limited to 70 on motorway 60 dual and 50 single carriage.
supose it depends on how anal the copper is. Never known anyone get tugged before

But if the transit is a mini bus/taxi with factory glass all around and factory fitted extra seats it's classed as a car

 

[oilcan]

The laughable thing. My mk4 (or mk3 facelift) ford ranger double cab, the XLT and thunder model fall under the dual purpose vehicle, but the full spec wildtrack model doesn't, as with the extras that are included in the wildtrack spec throws it over the weight limit. If your not sure look at the vin plate, it will tell you the weight of your vehicle, that's the weight the cameras or coppers database goes off.

I know of someone prosecuted for doing 70 on the A38 Plymouth to Exeter in a L200.They protested and argued their case because of their weight and won.

 

[Nearly]

It would be those clever barsteward cameras that would be the problem. All linked to a database of what numberplate can do what speed.

Have D2 car with rear seats removed. It can legally do 70.
Previous D2 commercial was in theory limited to 60.
The 4wd exception to commercial vehicle legislation was a point I didn't want to argue at the roadside.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Have D2 car with rear seats removed. It can legally do 70.
Previous D2 commercial was in theory limited to 60.
The 4wd exception to commercial vehicle legislation was a point I didn't want to argue at the roadside.

No theory - it’s a fact
Discovery Commercial is over 2040kgs unladen - so limited to 50 on A roads and 60 on dual carriageway
4wd doesn’t mean anything in that case

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I know of someone prosecuted for doing 70 on the A38 Plymouth to Exeter in a L200.They protested and argued their case because of their weight and won.

1840 kg kerb weight, so car limits apply

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Ford Ranger too heavy, so lower speed limits and I believe the Nissan Nevara is too.

It's a minefield.
My 66 plate Ranger Limited has a mass in service weight of 2173kg.
According to EU directive 95/48/EC mass in service includes 90% fuel and 75kg for driver.
Unladen weight is therefore 2173 - 75 - 72kg which = 2026kg.
Am I brave enough to argue that in court if I were charged?

 

[cosmiccrofter]

Ford Ranger too heavy, so lower speed limits and I believe the Nissan Nevara is too.

I've just checked the V5 for my Navara, and it's MIS is 2,175kg

 

[Nearly]

It's 30 years since I was 75kg!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I've just checked the V5 for my Navara, and it's MIS is 2,175kg

just bought an Isuzu, part of the reason for buying was that it was a bit smaller, I felt it was too big really but smaller than some of the others, it was a toss up between that and the Mitsubishi and a big part of why not a Ford Ranger was size. Same as quad bike, I have a Big Red Honda, and I think all the new quads are far too big as well. If I had realised about speed limits, it would have been another factor to add in.