Scribus
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- Central Atlantic
As far as I know it isn't over here. We have to separate the two and send the netting to the incinerator while the plastic goes off in a lorry once a year although nobody is too sure of its fate.
Plastic free farming - somebody needs to do something.
- Thread starter newholland
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As far as I know it isn't over here. We have to separate the two and send the netting to the incinerator while the plastic goes off in a lorry once a year although nobody is too sure of its fate.
newholland
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- Location
- England
Bio net agriculture ltd …. the people who designed the edible bale wrap ….. can somebody help to find their contact details please?
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- Location
- North Wales
Solway recycling are trying to push clear bale wrap as it has a value to be recycled.
- Location
- Hampshire
Makes you wonder why to bother when you see things like this
Martyn
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- South west
We make several thousand round bales a year and i appsolultly hate the stuff because of plastic. Would love to put in silage clamps undercover but as tenants it dosnt stack up with FBT agreements. We recycle plastic but they wont take net, water coming out thr ground as farm built into a hill our biggest nightmare, money would sort it but there isnt enough coming in to reinvest heavily. We use very little other plastics.
Martyn
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- South west
that is sickening, expect we will do a trade deal soon with them for cheep imports!
newholland
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- Location
- England
Nice film.
I am sure plenty of British agricultural plastic ends up in bad places one way or another.
Lead by example and change will happen.
I am sure plenty of British agricultural plastic ends up in bad places one way or another.
Lead by example and change will happen.
Re bio-degradable wrap -and i'd love to see that, s'long as it's good for 4-5 years-........ presumably 'money will find it'.
How much are we, as individual businessmen (or wimmen then) prepared to pay. when the bales need wrapping?
I suppose in an ideal world, there's a tax on oil based wrap, with the takings being put into subsidising veg based.
How much are we, as individual businessmen (or wimmen then) prepared to pay. when the bales need wrapping?
I suppose in an ideal world, there's a tax on oil based wrap, with the takings being put into subsidising veg based.
farmerm
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- Shropshire
Farming without plastic has been done before, we just need to learn from the Victorians.. 
For me the issue is not really the use of plastic, it is a very useful material. The real issue is the type of plastics used and how we can better manage and reuse plastic waste so that it isn't an environmental problem. Reduce, reuse, recycle....
For me the issue is not really the use of plastic, it is a very useful material. The real issue is the type of plastics used and how we can better manage and reuse plastic waste so that it isn't an environmental problem. Reduce, reuse, recycle....- Location
- Portsmouth
I've been wondering about switching to sisal but have never even seen it used.
We do hay for the equine market in small bales mostly....what would be the disadvantages I may not be aware of with the sisal Vs normal twine?
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Sisal is a bit dearer and the rolls a little shorter. It may break easier too. But we used a lot of it years ago.
- Location
- somerset
when I were a lad, silage was covered with lime, hay was tied with sisal. How that has altered, bloody plastic every where, silage bales, net wrap, silage sheet, feed bags, pallet wrap and more. It would appear we cant farm without plastic ! But we all know, somewhere along the line, it has to stop. Netwrap could be replaced with sisal string, at least it would rot down, lime on silage ? seem to remember cutting the top couple of feet off, with a hay knife, and chucking it on a trailer, to feed to hfrs out side. feed bags could be replaced by paper again, but the rest ? However, a solution has to found, so get your brains, in gear, and find one
they made biodegradable net wrap 10 years or more ago, someone I know used it but I never did and I don't know where it was from, you couldn't use it on hay or straw unless it was going to be used quite quickly but it was ok for silage
on the subject of sisal I remember on some of the stretch wrap boxes it warned not to wrap bales tied with sisal or part sisal string as it would affect the stretch film
IMHO there is nothing wrong with using plastic as long as its recycled properly perhaps there should be power stations to burn it or use it as @Scribus said for fuel
on the subject of sisal I remember on some of the stretch wrap boxes it warned not to wrap bales tied with sisal or part sisal string as it would affect the stretch film
IMHO there is nothing wrong with using plastic as long as its recycled properly perhaps there should be power stations to burn it or use it as @Scribus said for fuel
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Iirc the issue was something the sisal was treated with to prevent rotting, not the sisal itself.
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- North Wales
I think a lot of trouble with recycling plastic wrap is that it's contaminated with organic matter. I.e. silage and mud. That bit is up to the farmer to keep clean and present it for recycled so it can be utilised.
- Location
- Portsmouth
Going to try it this year. Think it would be an extra selling point with everyone being more aware of the plastic problem.
Has anyone managed to use it with a welger ap730? I wonder if it will cope?
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
As long as its good quality it shouldn't be a problem, always more tying problems with plastic than sisal in the past.
yep I think so but then its no good if it rots
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Aye, but the silage doesn't rot(due to the lack of oxygen) so the sisal shouldn't either. For hay or straw it would be better with the anti rot stuff, can remember the wee bales on the outside of the shed with weakened strings (stacked cut side down).