Probblems with Bale wrap

[Hfd Cattle]

Only thing to add to this list. We had a lot of bother this time when it was red hot to wrap them. Wrap breaking and it looking very thin and doing more bales as it was actually thin. Left some and wrapped at night

We found the same thing ...bales wrapped in the heat used less wrap . . Didn't used to happen ..... is it global warming or wrap produced cheaply we use a good wrap .

 

[Pistonbroke]

We bought our McHale wrapper second hand and it has different gearing on the stretch rollers to all our neighbours ones. It stretches the film more and it definitely seals better. Obviously the film is thinner so we put more layers on now,but the first year with four layers the bales kept better than the ones my mate did for us every year before that. A bit tender to handle the bales so we put six layers on everything now and other than damaged bales I can't remember the last time I saw a spoiled bale

 

[Estate fencing.]

We found the same thing ...bales wrapped in the heat used less wrap . . Didn't used to happen ..... is it global warming or wrap produced cheaply we use a good wrap .

I had problems ripping them with the grab then it was really hot, but that might be more to do with my stockman stile tractor driving.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I had problems ripping them with the grab then it was really hot, but that might be more to do with my stockman stile tractor driving.

I offered to unload and stack 60 bales for brother with the telehandler cos it was a bit awkward with his tractor .....I damaged about 10 and had to re-wrap them !
.....it's bad enough wrapping them for myself once without having to cart others out into the field to re-wrap !!

 

[Estate fencing.]

I offered to unload and stack 60 bales for brother with the telehandler cos it was a bit awkward with his tractor .....I damaged about 10 and had to re-wrap them !
.....it's bad enough wrapping them for myself once without having to cart others out into the field to re-wrap !!

One load I left with 15 and came back with 14 to rewrap, the wrapper man was not impressed.

 

[Henarar]

This year our haylage looked lovely, got dry wrapped and stacked. Now finding the bales have let in the wet, and there are many areas with fungus growing out. Our neighbors have similar problems.
I don't know which wrap was used, as it was done by contractor.
We need quality for the equines, but some is too poor for the cattle.
No problems last year using the same man and equipment.
Has anyone else had problems, and do you blame the wrap, the wrapper or what?

What wrap was the contractor using?
Was it different to last year?

 

[Chae1]

Speak to who you bought the wrap from and get manufacturer involved. They have paid out in the past when there's been problems.

 

[Treg]

Its wrapped in the field. I would prefer to have it wrapped at the stack, as we used to have when we were back in Lincolnshire, and our contractor had big machinery and plenty of labour. His machines would not be able to access our farm without losing a few vital bits on the way.
Time is of the essence here in Wales, we need to get it wrapped before it rains, again.

Wrapping in the field is your problem, we did it for a couple of years but gave up on it , bird damage, rehandling will suck in air , plus damage when bringing in and stacking.

 

[Chae1]

Wrapping in the field is your problem, we did it for a couple of years but gave up on it , bird damage, rehandling will suck in air , plus damage when bringing in and stacking.

Must be 100s of thousands of bales wrapped in fields every year. Can't be that bad.

The future of wrapped silage must be in doubt with the amount of plastic used and disposed of.

 

[manhill]

I (and another) had problems with a contractor's green wrap .it didn't seal like the black and had 'crinkley' texture. Don't know the make but sticking with black in future.

 

[Forkdriver]

Speak to who you bought the wrap from and get manufacturer involved. They have paid out in the past when there's been problems.

I wonder what evidence they would need before accepting liability. So many variables in the process that rely on the correct procedure through the process.

 

[Chae1]

I wonder what evidence they would need before accepting liability. So many variables in the process that rely on the correct procedure through the process.

If it is the wrap at fault will be a lot more problem bales than just yours. Have you spoken to the contractor about problem?

 

[Forkdriver]

If it is the wrap at fault will be a lot more problem bales than just yours. Have you spoken to the contractor about problem?

Yes, he is a neighbor who does his own and a couple of other small farmers fields.

 

[SamN]

We had a lot of problems with wrapping 80x50 square bales a couple years ago using 500mm silotite, 8 layers.

A lot of bales were wet in the bottom, but no mould. Silotite rep came out and blamed condensation. Changed wrap now and it's solved it.

 

[Treg]

Must be 100s of thousands of bales wrapped in fields every year. Can't be that bad.

The future of wrapped silage must be in doubt with the amount of plastic used and disposed of.

I reckon a good 50% of farmers just make round bales for the sake of making them the others make feed for their stock.

 

[Dry Rot]

there are many areas with fungus growing out.

I suspect this is mould, not fungus, which begs the question, what colour is it?

White mould is harmless though from choice I wouldn't feed it. Black mould or smelly mould is poisonous.

I had white mould on haylage bales (6 layers of wrap, three year old haylage!) so gave it to a neighbour for his cattle as I was reluctant to feed it to my horses. He sold it to his liveries!

 

[Chae1]

I reckon a good 50% of farmers just make round bales for the sake of making them the others make feed for their stock.

Yeah you wouldn't be far wrong there!

We like buying them off the farmers that make them for the sake of making them though for £10/bale. So please let it continue as we can't make it for that

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Always wrap ours in the field as we don't have room to get them back to the stack for wrapping, not causing us any problems. How many people spike bales before wrapping? BIG NO to doing that here.
If I was getting 10% wastage I would be seriously stressed and changing something somewhere. Cake rep came one morning when I was putting a bale in the feeder .How often do you clean the feeder out says he ? About once a fortnight was my answer and that's just to clear dock stalks and sticks and stones. So hardly any waste

 

[Henarar]

I would change the make of wrap next year,
I had trouble with water getting in last year and the year before so bought a different make this time and so far they have been fine

 

[balerman]

Speak to who you bought the wrap from and get manufacturer involved. They have paid out in the past when there's been problems.

Good luck with that.They will blame everything but the wrap,bales too wet,too dry,misshapen,too coarse,wrapper set wrong etc.Been there before,so now i only use brands i completely trust on other peoples bales.If i want to try something new i will wrap my own bales with it.There is still plenty of poor quality wrap out there,worst ive tried lately was an expensive 7 layer wrap that left plenty of mouldy bales even at 8 layers.Later learned that 7 layered wrap only benefits the manufacturer.