Red Tractor Detergent Disinfectant

[Somerset Farmer]

Evening once again red Tractor has moved the goal posts, having used Fam 30 for many years it is no longer suitable for disinfection of grain stores. What disinfectant are farmers using to tick the box for Food safe disinfectants.

Thanks in advance

 

[Sonoftheheir]

We use jet5, not sure if that’s allowed by RT?

 

[Christoph1945]

What would actually happen if you all turned your backs on RedTractor?

 

[Bramble]

What would actually happen if you all turned your backs on RedTractor?

All UK produced food would instantly be unsafe to eat, loaded with chemicals/pesticides/drugs, poor animal welfare, rats released in grain stores etc etc, and worst of all untidy farmyards.

Consumers would be blockading supermarkets demanding the return of the red tractor on products, refusing to buy all the imported products of unknown provenance that had travelled 1000’s of miles.

In short, the world would end and everyone would starve......

It would make a global pandemic look like a walk in the park.

You will now be receiving an instant on the spot inspection this morning 8am sharp for even thinking such thoughts

 

[Zippy768]

Evening once again red Tractor has moved the goal posts, having used Fam 30 for many years it is no longer suitable for disinfection of grain stores. What disinfectant are farmers using to tick the box for Food safe disinfectants.

Thanks in advance

Haha, exactly the same thing I had bought up in ours. Fam30 not good enough.
Haven't sourced suitable replacement yet....

 

[melted welly]

Evening once again red Tractor has moved the goal posts, having used Fam 30 for many years it is no longer suitable for disinfection of grain stores. What disinfectant are farmers using to tick the box for Food safe disinfectants.

Thanks in advance

Looks like we’re left with Flash or Mr Muscle then.

 

[Sid]

APHA did it with TB disinfectant few years ago.
Had to go shopping for some Virkon LSP

I don't know if its food safe

 

[deleted user 837354]

Food safe disinfectants for use in a grain store???? Does such a thing even exist?

 

[Farma Parma]

had similar disc with my inspector & its ni on impossible to source anything they rec on there list thats the trouble
I only needed it for Bucket & Big trailer as i use them to shift cattle muck.
No Animals in my sheds where temp grain is tipped.
But if a Hot Pressure Washer cant clean said above items good enuff mind its a bad job
esp when using TFR aswell

 

[Zippy768]

had similar disc with my inspector & its ni on impossible to source anything they rec on there list thats the trouble
I only needed it for Bucket & Big trailer as i use them to shift cattle muck.
No Animals in my sheds where temp grain is tipped.
But if a Hot Pressure Washer cant clean said above items good enuff mind its a bad job
esp when using TFR aswell

Shouldn't be using the same trailer for muck and then grain!!! I was hauled up on only Steam cleaning and using fam30 on trailers.
A sole insecticide for grain store was fine (no cattle kept in temp store)

 

[roscoe erf]

Evening once again red Tractor has moved the goal posts, having used Fam 30 for many years it is no longer suitable for disinfection of grain stores. What disinfectant are farmers using to tick the box for Food safe disinfectants.

Thanks in advance

surely the great protection racket have told you what you can use

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I had this a couple of years ago- I was struggling to find a combined detergent/ disinfectant on the defra recommended list that I could actually buy in practice in the real world. I had an email conversation with the RT body, repeatedly telling them “Tell me what you want me to buy and I will buy it”, but they simply could not point to any available product.

A few days later and they passed me...

 

[Farma Parma]

Shouldn't be using the same trailer for muck and then grain!!! I was hauled up on only Steam cleaning and using fam30 on trailers.
A sole insecticide for grain store was fine (no cattle kept in temp store)

why not you can eat your breakfast off it there is no trace of anything after my expert power washing.
it then like the bucket has multiple washes anyways several times later. long before any grain is ever in it

 

[stroller]

Shouldn't be using the same trailer for muck and then grain!!! I was hauled up on only Steam cleaning and using fam30 on trailers.
A sole insecticide for grain store was fine (no cattle kept in temp store)

why not you can eat your breakfast off it there is no trace of anything after my expert power washing.
it then like the bucket has multiple washes anyways several times later. long before any grain is ever in it

Had that discussion with my inspector, once used for muck can't then be used for grain no matter how many times its washed, same as grain lorries. But you can still buy a secondhand trailer that could have been just hosed out and use that for grain

 

[Farma Parma]

Had that discussion with my inspector, once used for muck can't then be used for grain no matter how many times its washed, same as grain lorries. But you can still buy a secondhand trailer that could have been just hosed out and use that for grain

How does anyone know a Grain Trailer on a Wagon aint shifted henpen then washed/disinfected out plenty not used to then haul grain
whats the diff?

 

[Sid]

How does anyone know a Grain Trailer on a Wagon aint shifted henpen then washed/disinfected out plenty not used to then haul grain
whats the diff?

Do you need different wellies to walk in a grain store?
Different tyres for the tractor?

 

[Farma Parma]

Do you need different wellies to walk in a grain store?
Different tyres for the tractor?

Unreal isnt it.... Red Tractor is the biggest protection farce ever known in this farming game

 

[warksfarmer]

Evening once again red Tractor has moved the goal posts, having used Fam 30 for many years it is no longer suitable for disinfection of grain stores. What disinfectant are farmers using to tick the box for Food safe disinfectants.

Thanks in advance

Since when was there a requirement to actually disinfect a grain store? That’s a new one on me.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

So what’s the definitive answer here? If I use a trailer to shift FYM then wash and disinfect it is that ok? I cant tell from the standards:

OT.d Key
Vehicles, trailers and sheets must be thoroughly cleaned, power washed and sanitised with a combined food grade detergent/ disinfectant if they have previously carried material other than combinable crops
R
n Cleaning records
OT.e Key
Vehicles, trailers and sheets must not be used for carrying combinable crops if they have previously carried material that is on the TASCC Haulage Exclusion List

I can’t find a TASCC list, but the AIC list:

https://www.aictradeassurance.org.uk/latest-documents/aic-haulage-exclusion-list-appendix-1/1app-1-exclusion-list.pdf

directs you onward to a site that is behind a password wall.

Im really none the wiser!

 

[Zippy768]

why not you can eat your breakfast off it there is no trace of anything after my expert power washing.
it then like the bucket has multiple washes anyways several times later. long before any grain is ever in it

I dunno .
Accidentally gave the game away to our inspector. When I asked what I was supposed to do about it, he said "dont say you haul muck with them"
Tbf he couldnt see the reasoning when the trailer is steam cleaned either