Reducing competition when overseeding

We have a direct drill on a Beef and sheep unit in West Wales , and do quite a few acres yearly . We have found the use of grass coated in Pronitro ,, which is a nitrogen coating really gets things going . However we Typically we have been spraying the grass off with glyphosate , before reseeding .
Ideally I would like to avoid using it , but need to make sure that the new grass does not get swamped by the existing .
Is there anything that can be used to slow down grass growth to give the new seeds a chance ?
I'm sure I have read of someone diluting glyphosate to such an extent that it holds back the growth .

All and any ideas welcome
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
What about growth regulators , like the hormone type green keepers or whatever use... wont be cheap but would hold it back for awhile.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
We have a direct drill on a Beef and sheep unit in West Wales , and do quite a few acres yearly . We have found the use of grass coated in Pronitro ,, which is a nitrogen coating really gets things going . However we Typically we have been spraying the grass off with glyphosate , before reseeding .
Ideally I would like to avoid using it , but need to make sure that the new grass does not get swamped by the existing .
Is there anything that can be used to slow down grass growth to give the new seeds a chance ?
I'm sure I have read of someone diluting glyphosate to such an extent that it holds back the growth .

All and any ideas welcome

What grasses are in the existing sward? If it’s just annual meadow grass then a low dose of glyphosate will certainly take it out. If it’s established couch, then anything other than a full 5-6L/ha rate, followed by another low dose 3-4 weeks later, is a complete waste of time, diesel and seed IME.

Even then, getting the seed established is only half the battle. Keeping it in the sward is a whole different ball game.

I have my own DD too, but have come to the conclusion that overseeding is rarely economical for anyone but the seed salesman.;)

Good luck in your endeavours to prove otherwise though.:)
 

JD-Kid

Member
What grasses are in the existing sward? If it’s just annual meadow grass then a low dose of glyphosate will certainly take it out. If it’s established couch, then anything other than a full 5-6L/ha rate, followed by another low dose 3-4 weeks later, is a complete waste of time, diesel and seed IME.

Even then, getting the seed established is only half the battle. Keeping it in the sward is a whole different ball game.

I have my own DD too, but have come to the conclusion that overseeding is rarely economical for anyone but the seed salesman.;)

Good luck in your endeavours to prove otherwise though.:)
yep unless you can see alot of dirt or the paddock is that buggered any thing new would get a jump on whats there it's a dead horse flogging job
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
How many kilos of seed to the acre is broadcast by a hay crop that’s got too old like that? Only a tiny proportion of it grows.

Those fat cat grass seed salesmen would love to have an order like that.[emoji1787]
How do you know what grows . Have you counted them .
If we all listened to ,it can't be done we would still be living in caves , I know for a fact that I can stop grass growing for 8 weeks . Is that long enough for it to grow ?
 

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