Should ethnic minorities & 'yoofs' be allowed to delete our history?

[SteveHants]

Some organisation under the banner of Democratic Football Lads Alliance are supposedly in charge of a counter demo.
Guess there’s no footie on yet

They are the Tonmeh Robinson Fash mob

 

[Still Farming]

New measures to put in prison within hours ,apparently, brought in.

 

[Raider112]

So; slavers didn't enslave any of the relatives of people wanting their statues removed (or pulling them down)?

Are you sure?

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One thing's for sure, none of them would have any idea if their relatives were affected and as most are white it would be very unlikely. Very few would have known who the statues were of, never mind their relevance as some were filmed admitting as much.

 

[Raider112]

They are the Tonmeh Robinson Fash mob

Who are unfortunately having a revival after apparently losing a lot of support in the last year or so.

 

[SteveHants]

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One thing's for sure, none of them would have any idea if their relatives were affected and as most are white it would be very unlikely. Very few would have known who the statues were of, never mind their relevance as some were filmed admitting as much.

All of which means they are merely against commemorating slavers with public statues in their honour? Shocking.

 

[Bald Rick]

They are the Tonmeh Robinson Fash mob

Yes

 

[SteveHants]

That's another way in which occupants of my home town (Salford) compete with our Scouse rivals.
"Who can send Tommy Robinson packing the fastest"......

 

[czechmate]

I know if I started a demonstration in France regarding my British beliefs I'd be told to fudge off home , sharply

Doubt you’d be told anything. More likely tear gassed and shot (with rubber bullets)

 

[Bootneck]

A lot of military veterans were planning to go and protect the cenotaph, if you have served in the armed forces and had friends dead on the battlefield you would understand what war memorials mean to veterans. They are as important as churches /mosques etc. To see them desecrated is to see the memories of those who died insulted and dishonoured. A lot of people don't get how important this is. Yes Tommy Robinson also told people to show up, but a lot of veterans were going to go before he got involved. They are not far right, just decent people who want to protect a symbol that is important to them. And they will be labelled as racist, far right etc I know, but it's simply not true.

 

[Danllan]

A lot of military veterans were planning to go and protect the cenotaph, if you have served in the armed forces and had friends dead on the battlefield you would understand what war memorials mean to veterans. They are as important as churches /mosques etc. To see them desecrated is to see the memories of those who died insulted and dishonoured. A lot of people don't get how important this is. Yes Tommy Robinson also told people to show up, but a lot of veterans were going to go before he got involved. They are not far right, just decent people who want to protect a symbol that is important to them. And they will be labelled as racist, far right etc I know, but it's simply not true.

I can think of several people who would probably do just that, and know of one who definitely would protect the Cenotaph, because we've discussed the matter over the years after watching it be desecrated before. All in this instance are ex British Army, and all are black. Of course I know many more white chaps who were in with me too, and they share the sentiments.

I don't want to see any ex-servicemen having to defend the Cenotaph, still less getting arrested for it - which I wouldn't be at all surprised to see happen, having had a fair amount of dealings with the Met'*. But, my darker side would enjoy seeing a snowflake / BML mob accusing black ex-paras of racism as they were assisted to the ground by them...

Aren't the socialist Sir Keir Starmer and lovely but thick and ever so community-uniting Sadiq Khan going to be interesting to watch as the ones they so loudly lauded only a few days ago rampage across our cities?



*It is my opinion that you'd be on pretty strong ground using reasonable force in this instance; it is a national icon and we have common ownership of it. Public opinion, although of course not political pressure , would probably see the CPS as a whole and the DPP in particular bend over backwards to find lacunae through which any veterans would not have to jump.

 

[Smith31]

I can think of several people who would probably do just that, and know of one who definitely would protect the Cenotaph, because we've discussed the matter over the years after watching it be desecrated before. All in this instance are ex British Army, and all are black. Of course I know many more white chaps who were in with me too, and they share the sentiments.

I don't want to see any ex-servicemen having to defend the Cenotaph, still less getting arrested for it - which I wouldn't be at all surprised to see happen, having had a fair amount of dealings with the Met'*. But, my darker side would enjoy seeing a snowflake / BML mob accusing black ex-paras of racism as they were assisted to the ground by them...

Aren't the socialist Sir Keir Starmer and lovely but thick and ever so community-uniting Sadiq Khan going to be interesting to watch as the ones they so loudly lauded only a few days ago rampage across our cities?



*It is my opinion that you'd be on pretty strong ground using reasonable force in this instance; it is a national icon and we have common ownership of it. Public opinion, although of course not political pressure , would probably see the CPS as a whole and the DPP in particular bend over backwards to find lacunae through which any veterans would not have to jump.

Anyone found causing damage to war memorials should receive a custodial sentence.

This law should have been brought in years ago, there are regular media stories of village drunks causing damage. Ungrateful, disrespectful bas74rds

 

[SteveHants]

I can think of several people who would probably do just that, and know of one who definitely would protect the Cenotaph, because we've discussed the matter over the years after watching it be desecrated before. All in this instance are ex British Army, and all are black. Of course I know many more white chaps who were in with me too, and they share the sentiments.

I don't want to see any ex-servicemen having to defend the Cenotaph, still less getting arrested for it - which I wouldn't be at all surprised to see happen, having had a fair amount of dealings with the Met'*. But, my darker side would enjoy seeing a snowflake / BML mob accusing black ex-paras of racism as they were assisted to the ground by them...

Aren't the socialist Sir Keir Starmer and lovely but thick and ever so community-uniting Sadiq Khan going to be interesting to watch as the ones they so loudly lauded only a few days ago rampage across our cities?



*It is my opinion that you'd be on pretty strong ground using reasonable force in this instance; it is a national icon and we have common ownership of it. Public opinion, although of course not political pressure , would probably see the CPS as a whole and the DPP in particular bend over backwards to find lacunae through which any veterans would not have to jump.

Starmer condemned the protests.

 

[Danllan]

Starmer condemned the protests...

He also supported them. Flexible chap...

 

[SteveHants]

He also supported them. Flexible chap...

No attempt to address MLK though, I see.

 

[Danllan]

No attempt to address MLK though, I see.

Wasn't aware I had to, nut, as it goes, I think he has been hugely overhyped, that he was pretty mediocre and that he didn't practice what he literally and metaphorically preached. If you want to quote a black fellow with an entirely unimpeachable record, you'll have to turn to Desmond Tutu. I'm a definite atheist and am not interested in the spiritual mumbo-jumbo he churned out; but he is an entirely decent, honourable and consistently good man.

 

[SteveHants]

Wasn't aware I had to, nut, as it goes, I think he has been hugely overhyped, that he was pretty mediocre and that he didn't practice what he literally and metaphorically preached. If you want to quote a black fellow with an entirely unimpeachable record, you'll have to turn to Desmond Tutu. I'm a definite atheist and am not interested in the spiritual mumbo-jumbo he churned out; but he is an entirely decent, honourable and consistently good man.

I'm not religious to the point of being anti-theist, but to disregard the life experiences of MLK is breathtaking.

 

[Danllan]

I'm not religious to the point of being anti-theist, but to disregard the life experiences of MLK is breathtaking.

Interesting, I didn't write that and yet you read it, how? He had some pretty good and bad times and did some great things, but he wasn't the saint he is painted as. Take a squint at the Hodgson biography, probably the best researched, and you'll see how much he was overhyped. But that was the fashion, just look at JFK.

 

[SteveHants]

Interesting, I didn't write that and yet you read it, how? He had some pretty good and bad times and did some great things, but he wasn't the saint he is painted as. Take a squint at the Hodgson biography, probably the best researched, and you'll see how much he was overhyped. But that was the fashion, just look at JFK.

Can you not see the quo

Interesting, I didn't write that and yet you read it, how? He had some pretty good and bad times and did some great things, but he wasn't the saint he is painted as. Take a squint at the Hodgson biography, probably the best researched, and you'll see how much he was overhyped. But that was the fashion, just look at JFK.

Can you not see the quote I posted?
Are you going to carry on with the whataboutery that we see with todays pathetic neo-fascists?

 

[Danllan]

Can you not see the quo

Can you not see the quote I posted?
Are you going to carry on with the whataboutery that we see with todays pathetic neo-fascists?

Being think, I have no idea what that means, please explain in simple terms for me to understand.

 

[SteveHants]

Being think, I have no idea what that means, please explain in simple terms for me to understand.

Why? Are you thick as well?