should our deal with usa mean end of red tractor?

[thorpe]

should our deal with usa mean end of red tractor?

 

[colhonk]

Yoy people should end red tractor anyway.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Or will it become a valuable tool to protect our market!!

 

[thorpe]

Or will it become a valuable tool to protect our market!!

i dought it very much but the mafia will force it on us.we are mugs think on gm soya , osr produced with neo nics etc etc.

 

[betweenthelines]

Don't level down food standards, sell food on the 3 B's Better for you, Better for the Environment, Better for Britain.

 

[An Gof]

Or will it become a valuable tool to protect our market!!

No, just a tool to beat us with like it has been all along

 

[Nithsdale]

British farmers 'will go out of business' in UK-US trade deal, Theresa Villiers warns

 

[kiwi pom]

should our deal with usa mean end of red tractor?

If it goes, and I think it should, do you think the people you sell to will be happy buying from you without any kind of assurance or paper trail?
Imagine if all the buyers had their own set of rules and hoops you had to jump through before they'd buy from you.

 

[kiwi pom]

British farmers 'will go out of business' in UK-US trade deal, Theresa Villiers warns

It seems the same two points are always bought up, chlorine washed chicken and hormone beef. So if at the last minute the US agreed for the UK market they will provide hormone free beef, and chicken prepared to UK standards, would that be ok?

 

[Thick Farmer]

If it goes, and I think it should, do you think the people you sell to will be happy buying from you without any kind of assurance or paper trail?
Imagine if all the buyers had their own set of rules and hoops you had to jump through before they'd buy from you.

They do

 

[Nithsdale]

It seems the same two points are always bought up, chlorine washed chicken and hormone beef. So if at the last minute the US agreed for the UK market they will provide hormone free beef, and chicken prepared to UK standards, would that be ok?

They wouldn't bend and agree that, why would they? The US hold the cards, it is the UK who will bend

I doubt very much that the US would be sending whole chickens into the UK... but that chlorine chicken could well be the staple of the processed meat in pies and the likes. Same goes for the beef.

 

[thorpe]

do they?

 

[kiwi pom]

They wouldn't bend and agree that, why would they? The US hold the cards, it is the UK who will bend

I doubt very much that the US would be sending whole chickens into the UK... but that chlorine chicken could well be the staple of the processed meat in pies and the likes. Same goes for the beef.

No idea, my point was its always the same two things mentioned, is that the only argument?. If I wanted to do a deal and all it took was to back down on two points that wouldn't be hard to achieve, I'd jump on it.
It would be easy for Trump to say "ok no Chlorine no hormones, deal?"

 

[Drillman]

Is red tractor still going?

Not heard owt from them for 18 months now! And for my sins we have 2 inspections a year 1 for arable and a separate one for beef.

Not really sure what I’m paying for that is a fact. and as it seems this covid thing isn’t going away anytime soon, on farm inspections have no place in society anymore imo.

 

[Nithsdale]

No idea, my point was its always the same two things mentioned, is that the only argument?. If I wanted to do a deal and all it took was to back down on two points that wouldn't be hard to achieve, I'd jump on it.
It would be easy for Trump to say "ok no Chlorine no hormones, deal?"

I don't know...
They were only used as examples. But Ms Villiers was in the govt until recently, and she believes it will spell disaster for UK farmers. When something like that comes from a (now ex) cabinet minister of the existing government, you have to pay attention - as she will have seen the direction the PM/govt want to go with these trade deals

 

[Agrivator]

The Americans believe that everything made in Britain ( ie, England as far as they are concerned) is of very good quality.

It might be prudent for us to accept a number of food imports from the the USA, simply to export a whole range of British goods to them. The prosperity of British farming depends on a prosperous British economy, and a prosperous British economy depends on our opportunity to export as much as possible.

Imports of american beef and chicken is something we might just have to live with.

 

[kiwi pom]

I don't know...
They were only used as examples. But Ms Villiers was in the govt until recently, and she believes it will spell disaster for UK farmers. When something like that comes from a (now ex) cabinet minister of the existing government, you have to pay attention - as she will have seen the direction the PM/govt want to go with these trade deals

I'm not a farmer but I've been involved with Ag at some level all my life (I'm 46). One thing has remained constant, someone has always been claiming British Ag is on the verge of disaster. Compared to farmers in many parts of the world, I don't think its too bad.
Just an opinion.

 

[steveR]

The Americans believe that everything made in Britain ( ie, England as far as they are concerned) is of very good quality.

It might be prudent for us to accept a number of food imports from the the USA, simply to export a whole range of British goods to them. The prosperity of British farming depends on a prosperous British economy, and a prosperous British economy depends on our opportunity to export as much as possible.

Imports of american beef and chicken is something we might just have to live with.

S'OK then... ELMS will keep us all going??

 

[Nithsdale]

I'm not a farmer but I've been involved with Ag at some level all my life (I'm 46). One thing has remained constant, someone has always been claiming British Ag is on the verge of disaster. Compared to farmers in many parts of the world, I don't think its too bad.
Just an opinion.

I don't think it's that bad either... but I don't trust the Torys. I'm wary of their ideology of Brexit, and we all know too well their ability to just kill off a home industry

 

[thorpe]

our problem with all politions is they know its in our nature to keep producing in hope our situation now is no hope!