Strava running app highlighting illegal routes on farms

[Exfarmer]

One of my local hotspots is round my neighbours garden, not sure why but I guess he wears his gizmo all the time including mowing

 

[MattR]

Why cant your farm lobby /leaders push for this antiquated idiot law to be done away with? Footpaths

Not sure whether you're joking or not, but it would be pretty much on the same level of futility as an Australian pressure group campaigning for your government to ban beer, barbecues and sledging batsmen

 

[steveR]

err, re the MOD

I believe a couple of years ago our military warned its members ( especially female, but directed to all ) about using Strava due to personal security risks, showing their regular running routes

American troops were warned about it in Afghanistan... Terry Taliban was supposed to be using thge data to target attacks!

Mobile phones are absolute security risk these days for troops.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Not sure whether you're joking or not, but it would be pretty much on the same level of futility as an Australian pressure group campaigning for your government to ban beer, barbecues and sledging batsmen

Absolutely not joking. How is it NOT a biosecurity issue having every man and his dog able to just walk through your farm? Especially those with livestock.

And re the banning of beer part. It's been done in a lot of Aboriginal communities.

 

[Wombat]

Absolutely not joking. How is it NOT a biosecurity issue having every man and his dog able to just walk through your farm? Especially those with livestock.

And re the banning of beer part. It's been done in a lot of Aboriginal communities.

It is but but very few of the general public give a flying

 

[MattR]

Absolutely not joking. How is it NOT a biosecurity issue having every man and his dog able to just walk through your farm? Especially those with livestock.

You may have a point - I don't disagree that there can be issues with footpaths over farms. The point I was making is that the right to use Public Rights of Way is so ingrained in our culture, as well as the fact the rambling/outdoor leisure lobby is so powerful, that any campaign to remove footpaths would be utterly futile. Would also be an appalling PR disaster for British farming

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

It is but but very few of the general public give a flying

Genuine question. So what does/ has happened during a fmd outbreak?

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

You may have a point - I don't disagree that there can be issues with footpaths over farms. The point I was making is that the right to use Public Rights of Way is so ingrained in our culture, as well as the fact the rambling/outdoor leisure lobby is so powerful, that any campaign to remove footpaths would be utterly futile. Would also be an appalling PR disaster for British farming

Most guns were banned here 25 years ago... Nothing is impossible.

 

[MattR]

Most guns were banned here 25 years ago... Nothing is impossible.

Maybe. But if anything the trend is currently towards greater levels of access to the countryside not less (look at Scotland, & the CRoW Act etc).

 

[farmerm]

For those that don’t use the extremely popular running app Strava I urge you to go on it and have a look at the ‘routes’ marked up on the maps section. They have just updated to show ‘heat maps’ where people walk/run regardless of whether it is legal to do so. And in turn this is encouraging more people to use them.

We have three marked up and promoted running routes on Strava right through our farmyard which has no public right of way. It also shows loads of places where people have run/walked on land that is not open to the public.

We have opened up a complaint with Strava to get the routes removed ASAP as it nearly resulted in a runner with earphones in not hearing or seeing a reversing telescopic. I would urge you all to do the same.

Note Sometimes phone GPS get a bit confused and record far from accurate Strava traces, mine has recorded me being hundreds of meters from my actual route taken!

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Maybe. But if anything the trend is currently towards greater levels of access to the countryside not less (look at Scotland, & the CRoW Act etc).

Yeah no idea about that? Surely joe public can wander down a country road side like they could here if they wanted too? Surely they can wander around their village/ town etc if exercise is needed. Surely theres woods or Forrest that is crown land that is "public" space... (like regional or national parks).
If no one tries to change things, then nothing ever will change.

 

[Boysground]

I have a public road that dead ends at my farm entrance and then becomes a footpath. The route will have easily been in existence for a thousand years, my farm may be slightly newer, my house is only 600 years old. The modern farm buildings have developed all around this right of way. There is not a day when it is not used.

I see it as a benefit for the farm, we have safety notices and dog on lead notices which most people comply with. All my staff are told to talk with anyone who asks questions. Just set back from the foot path are all my calf hutches, in non Covid times it is not unusual to see a family having a tour of the calves. The children will get more education about agriculture in those few minutes than they ever will in the education system.

It would be a sad day for me if this all stopped happening

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[Yale]

Genuine question. So what does/ has happened during a fmd outbreak?

Footpaths were closed during FMD.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

I have a public road that dead ends at my farm entrance and then becomes a footpath. The route will have easily been in existence for a thousand years, my farm may be slightly newer, my house is only 600 years old. The modern farm buildings have developed all around this right of way. There is not a day when it is not used.

I see it as a benefit for the farm we have safety notices and dog on lead notices which most people comply with. All my staff are told to talk with anyone who asks questions. Just set back from the foot path are all my calf hutches, in non Covid times it is not unusual to see a family having a tour of the calves. The children will get more education about agriculture in those few minutes than they ever will in the education system.

It would be a sad day for me if this all stopped happening

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I get that....but it should still be at your discretion not theres that they do that. Like I said. What if theyve wandered through someone elses yard and got some disease on their shoes and then spread it to your calves.....johnes or anthrax or anything.....

 

[Farmer Roy]

We have “closed” a few paper roads that run through our place. All legal & above board via the relevant state government departments

 

[Farmer Roy]

American troops were warned about it in Afghanistan... Terry Taliban was supposed to be using thge data to target attacks!

Mobile phones are absolute security risk these days for troops.

not that I’m worried about terrorist attacks, but yeah, I stopped using Strava for the same reason

 

[Johnnyboxer]

You may have a point - I don't disagree that there can be issues with footpaths over farms. The point I was making is that the right to use Public Rights of Way is so ingrained in our culture, as well as the fact the rambling/outdoor leisure lobby is so powerful, that any campaign to remove footpaths would be utterly futile. Would also be an appalling PR disaster for British farming

Exactly
What about the ‘public access for public money’ angle under ELMS ?

 

[steveR]

not that I’m worried about terrorist attacks, but yeah, I stopped using Strava for the same reason

You never know... one man's terrorist, is another's wronged Husband...

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Exactly
What about the ‘public access for public money’ angle under ELMS ?

Suppose you have a point there.....joe public probably expect something for all the gubament coin they dish out in subsidies every year......Heres a novel idea. Do away with subsidies and make your farms pay their way...

 

[unlacedgecko]

American troops were warned about it in Afghanistan... Terry Taliban was supposed to be using thge data to target attacks!

Mobile phones are absolute security risk these days for troops.

Anyone who takes a mobile into theatre is a fückwit.