- Location
- Fife
There is absolutely zero chance of that happening in the UK.
Strava running app highlighting illegal routes on farms
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Our road was gated. One half was put down in 1798 enclosure. The other half was owned by one chap until ww1. Council decided to surface it and open it up. Bet it costs then a filthy fortune to keep it fixed. Pikey rat run now. Suggested they could gate it again - the highways officers face was a complete picture!
exmoor dave
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- Location
- exmoor, uk
How would that make any difference to bridleway/ footpath access?
These have existed for 100s if not 1000s of years
Subs have existed for what, 50yrs?
I don't think you are understanding quite what a huge 'holy grail', footpaths/ bridleways are in the UK.
It's often completely comical, organisations like the Rambers association will fight any change to the bitter end, even changes such as moving a path to make it safer.
The National park authority of the national park we farm in, wanted to merge a footpath and bridleway on our place, the two routes run side by side, the bridle way is well maintained, the footpath is a deep sunken lane with water issues. Not to mention a saving to said tax payers on gates, styles etc by having one route.
A completely sensible move.
One person.... ONE person, who lives at the opposite end of the country, opposed every part of the process, causing the case to have to go to the very very top- the secretary of state for decision.
I dread to think what the whole process cost.
It's completely nuts!
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
Tis only a law though isnt it. Like I said at the start you dont burn witches anymore. Never said it would be easy to change. After all , look at gun laws in the US .
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
yeah, the Australian warning was aimed at members just jogging around bases or their own homes, more as a “duty of care” in relation to personal safety. I stopped using strava when I realised it was showing my data to everyone . . .
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Hey @cows sh#t me to tears , it seems like every second post on TFF are complaining about footpaths, walkers, dogs etc, but as soon as you suggest doing something it’s all too hard or impossible or some people like them . . . Not a lot of enthusiasm for trying to change things or seems. We spent nearly 15 years battling Shenhua ( owned by Chinese government ) & politicians on both sides of the spectrum, but we won through eventually. You can’t give up . . .
@cows sh#t me to tears , I think we have to realise that the poor sods who live in the UK “countryside” apparently don’t have access to all the public spaces & green areas that we are used to. They obviously don’t have parks or sporting grounds in their villages & towns like we do. Being in Parks & Gardens in Gunnedah Shire, we have over 400 ha & about 37 seperate locations, of “green areas” we look after, just in Gunnedah itself. They are all free & open to everyone. These include “proper” Parks, sporting ovals & fields, areas along the river, electricity easements, various reserves etc. Then, as you say, what about the streets in towns / villages, all the footpaths along every street & roads leading out of them ? People are always going for a stroll, taking the dog for a walk, jogging etc etc around town. They don’t need to be going through farms for exercise, fresh air or just for a bit of greenery.
These are just areas that Council are responsible for, not to mention a few State Forests locally, State owned reserves & recreation areas & the vast network of State Forests, National Parks & various other public “green” areas on a wider scale
Apparently there is no will to change things either in the UK
as for 1000 years ? Pfftt !! 60,000 years of tradition, culture & law was disregarded with one pen stroke by previous Brit governments, 1000 is nothing.
@cows sh#t me to tears , I think we have to realise that the poor sods who live in the UK “countryside” apparently don’t have access to all the public spaces & green areas that we are used to. They obviously don’t have parks or sporting grounds in their villages & towns like we do. Being in Parks & Gardens in Gunnedah Shire, we have over 400 ha & about 37 seperate locations, of “green areas” we look after, just in Gunnedah itself. They are all free & open to everyone. These include “proper” Parks, sporting ovals & fields, areas along the river, electricity easements, various reserves etc. Then, as you say, what about the streets in towns / villages, all the footpaths along every street & roads leading out of them ? People are always going for a stroll, taking the dog for a walk, jogging etc etc around town. They don’t need to be going through farms for exercise, fresh air or just for a bit of greenery.
These are just areas that Council are responsible for, not to mention a few State Forests locally, State owned reserves & recreation areas & the vast network of State Forests, National Parks & various other public “green” areas on a wider scale
Apparently there is no will to change things either in the UK
as for 1000 years ? Pfftt !! 60,000 years of tradition, culture & law was disregarded with one pen stroke by previous Brit governments, 1000 is nothing.
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- NSW, Newstralya
Just don’t tell them that free bbqs are a thing in most parks across Oz as well 
Yeah,but it’s always raining or cold.......sorry got mixed up with the UK.Just don’t tell them that free bbqs are a thing in most parks across Oz as well
- Location
- Lincolnshire
See when there are stories about British tourists getting pee'd and leaving mess and litter all over NZ / Aus? Like this:
www.dailymail.co.uk
Well, this is what everyone here is like. Free BBQ in a park? There will be drunk gypsy fights, nitrous oxide canisters, dirty nappies, mountains of litter.
We long since exported all our hard workers to the colonies. Now just a nation of jawless accountants, and assorted welfare scum. In a country where it rains a lot and is miserable weather.
Brit 'tourists from hell' arrive at the airport to leave New Zealand
Members of the controversial British family, thought to be from Liverpool, were spotted at Auckland International Airport with luggage and were due to leave New Zealand on a flight today.
Well, this is what everyone here is like. Free BBQ in a park? There will be drunk gypsy fights, nitrous oxide canisters, dirty nappies, mountains of litter.
We long since exported all our hard workers to the colonies. Now just a nation of jawless accountants, and assorted welfare scum. In a country where it rains a lot and is miserable weather.
Johnnyboxer
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Good idea, would it work in UK though...............your land in Oz is cheap per acre, ours is more expensive at £6-10,000 per acre though
Bogweevil
Member
Envcourage dog walks - the hounds will chase and bite the runner who will call the police who will have the dogs destroyed. Simples.
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
Strava map of my old place, blue lines are actual footpath, golf course at the top is obvious.
People wandering all over the place where they have no right or reason to be there. This is a family farm, about as isolated as you can get in Cheshire and this is only the folk that have the Strava app I assume so doesn't include everyone.
I doubt there are many farms in Australia having to put up with this and I am sure this is almost "normal" for the UK.
People wandering all over the place where they have no right or reason to be there. This is a family farm, about as isolated as you can get in Cheshire and this is only the folk that have the Strava app I assume so doesn't include everyone.
I doubt there are many farms in Australia having to put up with this and I am sure this is almost "normal" for the UK.
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
No. Because here "private property " is just that. Private.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Is trespass a crime where you are? I mean, can the police arrest a trespasser who isn't doing any actual damage?
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
It is here too but what exactly are you going to do?
All you are legally allowed to do is ask them to leave and nearly of them do when asked.
Usual responses are we thought we had the right to roam, they don't.
We weren't sure where the footpath went, well it is up to them to know where they are going and all footpaths are adequately marked.
What harm are we doing
The owner said we could go here (no I didn't)
Feck off you tosser I will go where I want.
All you are legally allowed to do is ask them to leave and nearly of them do when asked.
Usual responses are we thought we had the right to roam, they don't.
We weren't sure where the footpath went, well it is up to them to know where they are going and all footpaths are adequately marked.
What harm are we doing
The owner said we could go here (no I didn't)
Feck off you tosser I will go where I want.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Devil's advocate here - some folks have farms with footpaths/ PRW, others have farms without. Those without are more valuable as a result. Why should those who farm the less valuable land get a free upgrade because they're not prepared to work with the public/ put up adequate fencing to keep intruders out?
Yes, I know it's not as simple as that, but as I read it our Australian correpondents want to take established rights away from the public and give the effectively shared (public/ private) assets 100% to the private sector.
Yes, I know it's not as simple as that, but as I read it our Australian correpondents want to take established rights away from the public and give the effectively shared (public/ private) assets 100% to the private sector.
Is it a problem perculiar to Blighty then ? We know you can get shot for just looking at someone else's property in America, what's it like in Europe ? Other countries ?
- Location
- southern riverina Australia
Kind of depends on the situation. Here you will see a lot of signs on properties saying ",trespassers will be prosecuted " trouble is when it comes time to actually prosecute, our (like your) pathetic courts would throw 99% out with not even a caution in most cases.
Last year there was a case against 2 feral hippie dirty slags from "animals Australia " who trespassed onto a dairy goat farm and stole the pet goat from the farm shop (place was set up as a tourist attraction). Went to court and even though one of them was found with the goat still in her possession, received a $10 fine FFS. .
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- Location
- southern riverina Australia
That being said. Some people get pretty damn shirty at times even if you have a legitimate reason to be approaching them...(until you have explained yourself and reasons).
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Yeah,but it’s always raining or cold.......sorry got mixed up with the UK.
haha - we had 30 mm rain on Sunday, still had bbqs to clean on Monday morning
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