The next big cull

[melted welly]

So, given the continuous pressure on meat production/consumption and despite all the noise and money thrown at trying to force a habit change to factory grown alternatives, the last year has shown an increased demand.

Lot of money tied up in these new products, next few years will be make or break for the concept to gain significant foothold.

How long until Pirbright or similar has another leak? That would be very convenient to the cause.

or is that tinfoil hat territory?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Can't beat a good conspiracy (theory)

 

[britt]

Easier to get a conspiracy up and running against something new, untested and unnatural than something than we've been eating since time began.
Get in first. Play them at their on game. "The ultimate in factory farming", Frankenfoods etc.

 

[melted welly]

Easier to get a conspiracy up and running against something new, untested and unnatural than something than we've been eating since time began.
Get in first. Play them at their on game. "The ultimate in factory farming", Frankenfoods etc.

Bloke on bbc the other day said they were safe as they only contained growth hormones.

Are they the same growth hormones that bbc had knickers in twist about in American beef?

 

[Bald Rick]

Bloke on bbc the other day said they were safe as they only contained growth hormones.

Are they the same growth hormones that bbc had knickers in twist about in American beef?

 

[toquark]

I didn't realise twinky's had growth hormones?

 

[digger64]

So, given the continuous pressure on meat production/consumption and despite all the noise and money thrown at trying to force a habit change to factory grown alternatives, the last year has shown an increased demand.

Lot of money tied up in these new products, next few years will be make or break for the concept to gain significant foothold.

How long until Pirbright or similar has another leak? That would be very convenient to the cause.

or is that tinfoil hat territory?

dont think its a conspiracy , just depends on the market prices /currency value and the uk's low key customs policy - the more attractive imports are the greater the risk

 

[The Seeker]

I thought the job was going tits up , turns out it’s going tits down!

 

[GeorgeC1]

Easier to get a conspiracy up and running against something new, untested and unnatural than something than we've been eating since time began.
Get in first. Play them at their on game. "The ultimate in factory farming", Frankenfoods etc.

No offence but modern animal and arable farming is hardly natural lol. It's just as modernised and industrialised as Factory grown meats.

The animals are Geneticially Modified via thousands of years of selective breeding and the landscape changed to plant wheat, barley, oats etc.

 

[wrenbird]

GeorgeC1, do you understand what genetically modified means? Thousands of years of selective breeding does not make farm animals " genetically modified". There are no genetically modified farm animals. The only genetically modified food animal that has been approved for use in the human food chain is the AquAdvantage salmon in North America. It was approved 5 or 6 years ago, but I don't think it has been used commercially because of consumer resistance.

 

[wrenbird]

Easier to get a conspiracy up and running against something new, untested and unnatural than something than we've been eating since time began.
Get in first. Play them at their on game. "The ultimate in factory farming", Frankenfoods etc.

Did anyone see the programme on BBC1 on Thursday night,"What are we feeding our kids". It showed, quite shockingly, the effect eating ultra-processed food has on children. It also highlighted how much peoples shopping habits, and therefore their diets, have changed, particularly in the last 20 years or so.
Whereas shopping baskets used to contain ingredients that were taken home and prepared and cooked, the majority of groceries nowadays are ultra-processed junk.
Over 20% of primary school children are obese, so the presenter lived on a typical childs diet of ultra processed food for a month, and it was shocking to see the changes to his weight and health in such a short time. Most frightening was the changes to his brain after a month. These changes were permanent and what you would expect to see in a drug addict or an alcoholic to do with cravings and addiction.
Worth a watch on i-player.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Recorded and will watch over the wkd. Not exactly news to a lot of us but hopefully it will be news to a portion of the population.

 

[GeorgeC1]

GeorgeC1, do you understand what genetically modified means? Thousands of years of selective breeding does not make farm animals " genetically modified". There are no genetically modified farm animals. The only genetically modified food animal that has been approved for use in the human food chain is the AquAdvantage salmon in North America. It was approved 5 or 6 years ago, but I don't think it has been used commercially because of consumer resistance.

Whilst it's Not CRISPER selective breeding for desirable traits (for Humans) does a similar thing, and as such are totally artificial.

 

[Macsky]

No offence but modern animal and arable farming is hardly natural lol. It's just as modernised and industrialised as Factory grown meats.

The animals are Geneticially Modified via thousands of years of selective breeding and the landscape changed to plant wheat, barley, oats etc.

I troll, I troll, it’s off to work I go, with a keyboard and a screen, it’s my propaganda machine, I troll, I troll, I troll, I troll.
@macsky 2021

 

[GeorgeC1]

I troll, I troll, it’s off to work I go, with a keyboard and a screen, it’s my propaganda machine, I troll, I troll, I troll, I troll.
@macsky 2021

lol ok

 

[wrenbird]

Whilst it's Not CRISPER selective breeding for desirable traits (for Humans) does a similar thing, and as such are totally artificial.

Your reply confirms that you do not understand the terms CRISPR or genetic modification at all.

 

[melted welly]

No offence but modern animal and arable farming is hardly natural lol. It's just as modernised and industrialised as Factory grown meats.

The animals are Geneticially Modified via thousands of years of selective breeding and the landscape changed to plant wheat, barley, oats etc.

Hold on there Attenborough, selective breeding is a bit different to genetically modified, and a world away from lab grown.

going by your logic there, an Arctic fox is a “genetically modified” version of a desert fox or vice verse.

landscape changed to farm food, yes, but you’ve kinda undermined your own point with that analogy on what is natural:

A. 10 acre field of grass enclosed by hedge and trees, grazed by cattle to provide a food ( the long term benefits of which are noted over millennia) by converting rain water and solar energy via plants into meat.

B. 10 acres of concrete, tarmac, steel, glass, and plastic, containing bioreactors which convert (no ones 100% sure what it is are they? So let’s call it “stuff”) “stuff” into moulds, or refine and process existing cheap protein products into different “stuff” that looks a bit like meat and aims to replace landscape A with landscape B. This is powered by electricity and mains water.

The difference between the produce of landscapes A and B are worlds apart, despite B doing its best to replicate A.

A is the product of millions, possible billions of interactions between plants, animals, soil, microbes, nematodes, worms, flies, weather, water. Produce of landscape A contains a little bit of all of these interactions to provide a source of food that has sustained and evolved life for millennia.

B is the product of taking “stuff” and trying to replicate A by throwing money and energy at it to produce something that can ultimately be mass produced in landscape B at lower cost, and sold for greater profit than A.

What is your vision of the future for food production? Is it one where it’s centred around mass production from a handful of massive corporations?

 

[Yale]

If these future foods are so good they should not try to emulate meat by being meat substitutes. They should be marketed for what they are......but they are not meat!

 

[Hilly]

Beef , the ultimate plant based meat .

 

[Hilly]

We should have franken foods in court caking their products meat , they are not meat at all ! Trades description . Where are our leaders ? Asleep at the wheel .