This NFU 'produced to our standards' malarkey

midlandslad

Member
Location
Midlands
This isn’t what the NFU have been calling for and simply kicks the can further down the road. When the time comes and there is a US FTA on the table and standards are required to be lowered I know which they will vote.

The proposed commission is not a bad idea but still it doesn’t have any bite.

if you look at the proposed amendments there are two being debated, the first is the restriction of lower standards in law and the second is the commission. No mention of the former and the phrase throw the dog a bone comes to mind!
 

delilah

Member
Depressing, and not at all surprising, radio report last night on how one of the biggest palm oil producers in Indonesia has been riding roughshod over rainforest protection laws and still getting FSC certification.
When planning this 'produced to our standards' campaign, presumably the NFU discussed and researched this issue of monitoring and compliance ? Has anyone ever seen a paper explaining how such legislation would be enforced ?
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Yes. The problems and associated cost, are caused by layers of over regulation in our our country. Undermined totally if we allow produce in which is grown to substantially lower standards, which we are not allowed to mirror Even if we wanted to.
I have no wish to be window dressing for rapacious supermarket buyers.ve
old man used to say , that was Blairs legacy , making non jobs in the public sector (with pensions) , checking and creating new rules to control industry and every walk of life , we already know there as many administering BPS as there are farmers claiming it ,
After foot and mouth we had all these movement licences introduced so they could know where all the stock is , I would be very interested if they control the public the same way after covid !, civil service havnt learned a lot have they ?
 
old man used to say , that was Blairs legacy , making non jobs in the public sector (with pensions) , checking and creating new rules to control industry and every walk of life , we already know there as many administering BPS as there are farmers claiming it ,
After foot and mouth we had all these movement licences introduced so they could know where all the stock is , I would be very interested if they control the public the same way after covid !, civil service havnt learned a lot have they ?

I wrote many years ago that when NZ stopped subsidies, it was not the farmers who went bust. Around 5 per cent from memory, but 95 percent of the so called ‘support ‘ industries disappeared.
The ones we have enshrined in ‘law’ for whatever reason, may survive - for a time. But services need cash to pay for them and cash needs profit to create it.
 

delilah

Member
The final report of the Trade and Agriculture Commission was published two weeks ago.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ure-commission-final-report-executive-summary

You will have missed it. The NFU and all the others who campaigned for it have kept very quiet. Understandably so, as it amounts to the square root of sweet FA.
What, exactly, was the point ? As stated in the OP, it was doomed from the start. Who within the NFU decided to stake a huge amount of time, money and - most importantly - credibility on this campaign ?
With the resources at its disposal the NFU could achieve so much, if only it would shake this unfortunate habit of backing the wrong horse.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
It really is laughable how useless the NFU really are, Batters on the news today totally ignored after "requesting" a meeting with the minister regarding the ridiculous rules & regulations the EU have imposed on UK exports that the UK government have decided not to impose on exports.
REQUESTED! UK farmers supply 60% of the food this nation survives on, it's time the NFU bucked up it's ideas & appointed someone with the influence farming deserves otherwise the NFU should just pack it in!
Suggest you remember this when voting in May.
 

delilah

Member
Ref the last para of the OP.
This is what the NFU should be putting their weight behind. They are listed as being 'partners' in this initiative. Good, lets hope that means real, active participation rather than just lending the logo. They should be making this happen in all regions, rather than fannying around with the utterly pointless 'produced to our standards' angle.

 

Hilly

Member
It really is laughable how useless the NFU really are, Batters on the news today totally ignored after "requesting" a meeting with the minister regarding the ridiculous rules & regulations the EU have imposed on UK exports that the UK government have decided not to impose on exports.
REQUESTED! UK farmers supply 60% of the food this nation survives on, it's time the NFU bucked up it's ideas & appointed someone with the influence farming deserves otherwise the NFU should just pack it in!
Suggest you remember this when voting in May.
They will never buck their ideas up , it’s time the farmers stoooed paying them and stopped thinking they are going to do something for them they are useless and they take money of peopel it would be laughable if it were not so serious but the farmers are to blame not the nfu they pay them so they are responsible , personally I now see the nfu doing more harm than good .
 

delilah

Member
New Trade and Agriculture Commission meets for the first time today. Even the Chair admits that it is "toothless". For that read 'a complete waste of my time and everybody else's'. Of course it is, the whole 'produced to our standards' thing was a dead duck from day 1. All meaningful change is demand driven.
 

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