Wheat seed rates

[Lincsman]

Did it go flat? Double rate would be a lot more than anyone else would aim to do. I ignore those bits of the yield maps anyway.

No it was all stood up, just looked a little thicker and had to slow down, its usually more heads but smaller, with no loss but this year a definite loss in each field.

Granted double dosing is not normal but high seed rates, can look better with more straw, but its only grain I need.

 

[chipchap]

Worth remembering that black grass herbicides do knock six bells out of wheat too, so a higher seed rate may be beneficial. No black grass here to speak of.

 

[Wombat]

Worth remembering that black grass herbicides do knock six bells out of wheat too, so a higher seed rate may be beneficial. No black grass here to speak of.

Not as much as the bloody slugs do though

 

[Lincsman]

Worth remembering in dry countries they limit plant numbers as there is only enough moisture to feed a few... but will we be a dry country next year?

 

[Wombat]

Worth remembering in dry countries they limit plant numbers as there is only enough moisture to feed a few... but will we be a dry country next year?

Fingers crossed we are

 

[legin]

Will start after 10th Oct. Depending on seedbed 325 seeds raising to 450 late November. It all depends on ground conditions after maize.

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Do you plough after maize?

 

[Farmer Roy]

Worth remembering in dry countries they limit plant numbers as there is only enough moisture to feed a few... but will we be a dry country next year?

That’s why we are around 50 kg
We are only interested in the grain ( don’t bale straw as it’s too valuable as ground cover ), no point getting a lot of early vegetive growth if we run out of moisture to fill the grain . . .
We do also work on a lot of tillers / plant. If conditions are good the plant will tiller a lot more, or produce bigger heads, effectively compensating to a degree for a lower population. Have seen plenty of 5 - 7 t / ha cereals on 50 kg of seed . . .
We are basically farming stored sub soil moisture, not regular in crop rainfall

 

[RFR]

Going at 325 seeds after speaking to Ron Granger. He should know

 

[eagleye]

wheat with claydon
300-350 seeds/m2 or 160-180kg/ha seed size looks big this year so might be higher.
never worry about evenness of emergence, broadcasting seed was what we did up to early 80's and it was always ok

 

[Boysground]

Do you plough after maize?

It depends, ideally not and go through deep with a cultivator. If it’s dry enough I will direct drill. If it’s weedy and wet I will resort to the plough, I have one field with quite an area of black grass which I will plough this year.

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[Oat]

Adapted from an old HGCA/ADHB document

 

[JCfarmer]

No, KWS Exstase

My 1ton of Extase is 61 tgw

 

[JCfarmer]

I will be starting at 340seeds and use variable seed rate(by eye) where needed and soon up to 400 plus in some areas.

 

[yellow belly]

so far 200 kg will now up it to 225 kg half autumn crops in

very wet here and not likely to drill any more for a 10 days only 2 summers have been wetter in the last 30 years

last year 225 kg planted by 5 October the only problem was where early n was at a too high rate with basset
this year elicit at 25 kg less

with a stack plus a good thick stand the bg is reduced
if it is too thick then nitrogen fert can be adjusted putting on extra n in the early spring for a thin crop is not very effective

 

[Farmer Roy]

Unless you run out of moisture . . .

 

[Wombat]

Unless you run out of moisture . . .

Even last year which was dry for us we didn’t get to that point

 

[phil]

Adapted from an old HGCA/ADHB document
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Very low seed rates then ?

Seem to be creeping up every year

Or is people like to see thick crops early because they look better? I prefer thin crop as long as it’s even

That’s where variable rate seed probably makes the difference ?

 

[fudge]

We will drill 200kg/ha in October. That rate gives enough plants even if the slugs have a go.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

did some 2 weeks ago @150kg/ha and some the week after @200kg/ha can't remember without going through paperwork what varieties they were, also sunningdale 6row barley @90kg/ha

 

[icanshootwell]

Crikey that’s 2cwt/acre in old money. Just shows the variation across country.

1.25- 1.5 here up till 2 week of October then 1.75 after that. wanted to start this week but weather sais no.