Why aren't modern tractors fitted with

[Chae1]

That's the kind of reason I wanted to know about. Still think that having wear items internally with the hydraulics and transmission is stupid. The one local new Holland case bolloxed the loader as well,bits got in the seals in the rams,scored them,knackered the valves the lot. Six months old tractor, admittedly driven by an 18 yr old knob with disconnected trailer brakes

Depends on driver I guess. Some will continue to use them with filter lights on and spread filings through tractor. We just stop, get them on a low loader and tow to workshop.

I learnt this week new Hollands have a bypass valve to let oil past hydraulic filter.

Seems a bit pointless having a filter at all.

 

[ollie989898]

Why did you not clean them off incase of fire

Always looked and did try to but on a hot day moving straw about or running the discs, etc, you know how fast stuff can build up on a tractor.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Depends on driver I guess. Some will continue to use them with filter lights on and spread filings through tractor. We just stop, get them on a low loader and tow to workshop.

I learnt this week new Hollands have a bypass valve to let oil past hydraulic filter.

Seems a bit pointless having a filter at all.

Im not new Holland bashing because I am not opposed to having one,but an ex NH fitter said that the drain plug in the backend isn't actually the lowest point so even if you think you've caught it early,there is a sump of bits that is impossible to flush out. That could be sour grapes because he swapped dealers,mind.

 

[icanshootwell]

There was another plus the lorry driver said about the camera, no blind spot, with being able to record as well, it's surly a win, win. I'm surprised there are so many anti it on here.
I bet when JD and fendt introduce it on the next model everyone will want it. Watch this space

 

[holywell farmer]

Camera mirrors, had a lorry delivering today and he had some fitted, looks a good job, would save breaking so many glas mirrors in narrow lanes.

Probably expensive to fit

 

[Tarw Coch]

My uncle rolled a tractor and got put in hospital by the 24" stilsons that lived behind the seat beating him around the head

@Kevtherev

 

[BigBarl]

I followed a fendt loader tractor with a retro fit truck style camera kit, looked impressive still didn’t see me in their mirrors to let me by mind…..

 

[Kevtherev]

@Kevtherev

Wet the bed?

 

[steveR]

Brakes that don't need half the arse end taken apart to service or replace

Oh yes indeedy.

Son drove my Kubota around with the handbrake on, soon after I bought it.... Still waiting for the nerve to have the backend pulled apart...

 

[quattro]

Reliability built in!!!!

 

[icanshootwell]

Oh yes indeedy.

Son drove my Kubota around with the handbrake on, soon after I bought it.... Still waiting for the nerve to have the backend pulled apart...

No flashing lights or buzzer then, even my 10 year old Tele handler won't move if hand brake is on.

 

[steveR]

No flashing lights or buzzer then, even my 10 year old Tele handler won't move if hand brake is on.

pathetic lamp on dash...

 

[agrotron]

I have got a camera instead of a mirror on a tm that’s used for hedge cutting. It’s handy to see down by the wheel and less likely to get hit than a mirror as it’s smaller. If it does the camera is only £15 off ebay to swap so cheaper and just as easy as a mirror.

 

[yellow belly]

the bets place for a camera is on the trailer then whatever angle the trailer is the driver can see down the off side

 

[Fendtbro]

I know about them ,but they're like rocking horse sh!t in the great scheme of things. Why isn't it a common method in all classes of tractor. The number of times you hear of new Holland,MF and Claas tractors being scrapped because the brakes have disintegrated and bits have gone round the system and knackered the whole lot

It's because most people don't want to have to take the wheels off every so often to check and change brake pads. Not to mention calipers seizing up after a few years. The newer fastrac has better quality knott calipers that seem to be giving less trouble. The older ones were not great. I have no problem maintaining the dry brakes on fast tractors as at least you know where you are and total destruction is highly unlikely. The mb trac and unimog has even better brakes with high quality calipers that last decades and the big tracs have commercial type drum brakes that work for decades with pretty much no wear. Apparently many of the big tracs are still on original shoes after 15k plus hours and are unaffected my mud. Absolute buttons to reline too.. The most interesting modern tractor braking system is the pfanzelt which you can see on youtube has big drums on the back axle and dry discs on the front hubs. Not a cheap machine though!

 

[daveydiesel1]

It's because most people don't want to have to take the wheels off every so often to check and change brake pads. Not to mention calipers seizing up after a few years. The newer fastrac has better quality knott calipers that seem to be giving less trouble. The older ones were not great. I have no problem maintaining the dry brakes on fast tractors as at least you know where you are and total destruction is highly unlikely. The mb trac and unimog has even better brakes with high quality calipers that last decades and the big tracs have commercial type drum brakes that work for decades with pretty much no wear. Apparently many of the big tracs are still on original shoes after 15k plus hours and are unaffected my mud. Absolute buttons to reline too.. The most interesting modern tractor braking system is the pfanzelt which you can see on youtube has big drums on the back axle and dry discs on the front hubs. Not a cheap machine though!

Never heard of a pfanzelt before, look an interesting machine. Any dealers in the uk?

 

[Pistonbroke]

It's because most people don't want to have to take the wheels off every so often to check and change brake pads. Not to mention calipers seizing up after a few years. The newer fastrac has better quality knott calipers that seem to be giving less trouble. The older ones were not great. I have no problem maintaining the dry brakes on fast tractors as at least you know where you are and total destruction is highly unlikely. The mb trac and unimog has even better brakes with high quality calipers that last decades and the big tracs have commercial type drum brakes that work for decades with pretty much no wear. Apparently many of the big tracs are still on original shoes after 15k plus hours and are unaffected my mud. Absolute buttons to reline too.. The most interesting modern tractor braking system is the pfanzelt which you can see on youtube has big drums on the back axle and dry discs on the front hubs. Not a cheap machine though!

I suppose it's not beyond the engineers to have a wear indicator for discs,just get the brakes out of the backend

 

[Fendtbro]

Never heard of a pfanzelt before, look an interesting machine. Any dealers in the uk?

No. and no machines working to my knowledge. But there are two working in ireland. They will cost about 300k and up to 280hp now I think. Rotating console sells it for me, all other machines have rotating cabs if you are expected to look out the back at all. The Pfanzelt looks the machine of the future and way tougher than a standard tractor for forestry work.