Why is origin fert so dirty?

[valtraman]

Why is origin fert so dirty ? This year I had some yara stuff for my grazing fields & the spreader & tractor all stayed clean & dry hardly took any washing down . Been putting origin stuff on silage ground & everything is hanging with greasy moisture, stuff is spreading fine etc just so dirty .

 

[AJR75]

No idea but I had the same- dusty and the bags were full of lumps. Back of the spreader looked like it had been in a blizzard and that was only 4 tonnes in....

 

[robs1]

Been using origin for years not had any problems, used up some bought three years ago this spring and it was fine, all urea

 

[DrDunc]

Would hardly know there had been 15 tonne of Origin urea through my spreader the day I spread it. Depends entirely upon the fertiliser composition

Blends are usually far worse than compounds. Straights are definitely cleaner than any "NPK+S" types (and still much cheaper)

 

[livestock 1]

Would hardly know there had been 15 tonne of Origin urea through my spreader the day I spread it. Depends entirely upon the fertiliser composition

Blends are usually far worse than compounds. Straights are definitely cleaner than any "NPK+S" types (and still much cheaper)

Should we all use straights even on rough land that gets a low rate? For a saving

 

[DrDunc]

Should we all use straights even on rough land that gets a low rate? For a saving

All depends what the soil analysis indicates it needs surely?

No point chucking on a bag of 20.10.10 to the acre just because that's how it's "aye been". It's not hard to work out potential saving per tonne, minus the extra diesel if you've to go over it again with some MOP and/or TSP

 

[livestock 1]

All depends what the soil analysis indicates it needs surely?

No point chucking on a bag of 20.10.10 to the acre just because that's how it's "aye been". It's not hard to work out potential saving per tonne, minus the extra diesel if you've to go over it again with some MOP and/or TSP

Yes agreed

 

[Ben B]

Every load we get the quality changes. Some flows nice some is like its been wet. I have to calibrate the drill every box because the rate always changes.

 

[Sharpy]

I think the problem is caused by rwo things, sulphur in particular seems to make fert dirty and mixing the various ingredients must cause some dust to be produced, but its a blend and cheaper than a compound so ho hum.
Secondly if you are spreading on a day with high humidity then any product will coat your spreader, after the first layer sticks then it just gets worse quickly.

 

[David.]

I have had origin urea and blend this year and it has actually been clean.
Lot depends on the RH on the day you spread.
Urea in particular is very hygroscopic and the spreader will be filthy on a damp day but clean on a drying day.
The rate calibration also varies slightly which is unhelpful.

 

[robbie]

Both origin and diamond urea (same stuff) has been very dusty this year, I did 12 odd tonnes of urea the other day along with 5 tons of polysulphate and a couple bags of potash and I had flakes of solidified dust half an inch thick dropping off the spinner.
Not to worried it all spread fine but the flow factors of all products has varied a fair bit from bag to bag, urea probably the least of the lot.

 

[robs1]

Both origin and diamond urea (same stuff) has been very dusty this year, I did 12 odd tonnes of urea the other day along with 5 tons of polysulphate and a couple bags of potash and I had flakes of solidified dust half an inch thick dropping off the spinner.
Not to worried it all spread fine but the flow factors of all products has varied a fair bit from bag to bag, urea probably the least of the lot.

Polysulphate is dirty stuff but very good source of sulphur

 

[Steevo]

Both origin and diamond urea (same stuff) has been very dusty this year

Interesting to hear that they are both the same.

I do wonder with a lot of this fertiliser how much all comes out of the same bagging plants but just in different colour/branded bags but it's not easy to confirm this.

 

[robbie]

When I've asked the respective companies for spreader settings this last couple of years its always been abuqur Egyptian urea for both.
I had some origin AN a few years back and they said to use the same settings as CF nitram!!!! When I asked if it was nitram they coughed and spluttered a bit. It was imported price but re bagged blue bag.

 

[Sharpy]

When I've asked the respective companies for spreader settings this last couple of years its always been abuqur Egyptian urea for both.
I had some origin AN a few years back and they said to use the same settings as CF nitram!!!! When I asked if it was nitram they coughed and spluttered a bit. It was imported price but re bagged blue bag.

Tbh Nitram settings are usually a good starting point for origin blends.

 

[nick...]

Had origin nitrogen last year which I was told by rep was nitram but it was nothing like it and a load of dusty rubbish really.evevery bag was a mix of differant colours and at times when spreading could not see behind spreader due to dust.im sure it’s all dumped on docks at Ipswich and mixed and bagged.ill never use origin products again.
nick...

 

[robbie]

What I had was definitely nitram and not imported but who cares it spread alright and the price was right.

 

[Spencer]

Had origin nitrogen last year which I was told by rep was nitram but it was nothing like it and a load of dusty rubbish really.evevery bag was a mix of differant colours and at times when spreading could not see behind spreader due to dust.im sure it’s all dumped on docks at Ipswich and mixed and bagged.ill never use origin products again.
nick...

Think that’s where Origin got their name….
“Unknown Origin”, they just dropped the former..

 

[David.]

I'm most surprised you say they were the same, my Origin was as clean as a whistle.
The other wasn't...

 

[dave78+]

The Arabs scientists have designed a new version of nitrogen fertilizer. Maybe they will design a new version of water too.