Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Time for lunchGreat, your 1 of of those people that sells them as singles!
Bullocks for sale. UA Stirling
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Bet there is a lot less singles going through now that mart staff are grouping them up for sale.
Nothing worse than someone with 30-40 of them going through in ones & two.
Should be charged more commission, that would sort it
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Selfish and greedy behaviour imo , I got stuck behind one selling 100 twice ! One at a timeBet there is a lot less singles going through now that mart staff grouping them up for sale.
Nothing worse than someone with 30-40 of them going through in ones & two.
Should be charged more commission, that would sort it
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Commission should be same for a lot regardless of size then if you stick a dozen in it’s very cheap singleton it’s very dearBet there is a lot less singles going through now that mart staff are grouping them up for sale.
Nothing worse than someone with 30-40 of them going through in ones & two.
Should be charged more commission, that would sort it
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
Personally I don’t see the problem selling them in singles...the man has spent all that time breeding them and feeding them and it’s his years hard work....he pays the auctioneer to do what he wants not what the marts want.
Maybe they should charge less commission when animals are grouped together...not more for selling them singular
Maybe they should charge less commission when animals are grouped together...not more for selling them singular
capfits
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Yip and the finishers are really interested in just one......
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
Well if they ain’t uniformed then they won’t match up....A lot of suckled calves are sold in ones or twos around here
- Location
- Black Isle
I agree to an extent, but some people take the pee. I normally aim for pens of 3-4-5 when drawing to take in but if I have a Stand out beast for good or bad reasons I want it sold single. I have heard the auctioneer having a go at people for selling singles, some of those people no longer sell stock there.
Unless they are especially better than the rest of your lot do you think they sell any better that way?
OK for a fancy blue/lim or if a big weight difference from the rest, but no reason anyone with 100 like @Hilly went through behind couldn’t be matching up a decent proportion into bigger lots.
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
Obviously if you have batches of 5’s or 10’s that are uniformed then match them up otherwise you’re just wasting everyone’s time
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- Ardrossan Ayrshire
If single cattle made less per kilo thank equivalent batched cattle then there would be more sold in batches. Big batches eliminate the small buyers and favour the big buyers.
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- Scotland
Same in Dalmally and Tiree. Although it's a nice sight when a nice batch of even beasts go into these smaller rings
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Just sell all singles at end of sale. Those guys wanting to buy singles, could come to mart later and not waste there time watching bigger lots go through.
My dad works at mart and gets hassle about singles going through from buyers.
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muleman
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Ive sold batches of 50 calves in singles or maybe just 2 or 3 paired up....if they would match up we would but they often wont... ive known us pair calves up then next thing the auctioneer is tapping on my shoulder asking if we would split them! They definitely dont make more paired up round here.
If the buyers know their job, which most of them do, they can buy in singles happily off different farms and put a great wagon load of matching cattle together, ive seen the pens theyve bought after the sale, all about having a good eye for the job i would say.
If the buyers know their job, which most of them do, they can buy in singles happily off different farms and put a great wagon load of matching cattle together, ive seen the pens theyve bought after the sale, all about having a good eye for the job i would say.
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- Scottish Highlands
Erm, if x<y, then it follows that y>x - there is no difference between the two. Sure, it can be glossed up to look like a premium or a discount, but fundamentally it's the same. Or are you one of these folk who claims that RF offers no price premium, even though the price is generally accepted to be less if you don't have it?
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
It’s a bit late for New Years resolutions but mine is not to bother replying to anything by you....good day sir
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- Scotland
I'm maybe having a brain-fart here, but what is 'RF'
Despite the irritation of cattle being sold in singles, the beauty of the auction mart is that nobody should be treated unfairly and they should be allowed to sell their cattle in whatever lots they want. And maybe some are scared they'll get the passports mixed up with larger lots ( roll on electronic tagging???)
But some could do with a bit of help from the more experienced and helpful drovers. I remember the first time I sold store cattle at Longtown. As the drover helped me take them to their pens, he said: ''you'll be wanting to sell these three together'' and ''this would go with that'' etc.
When we send a batch of cull ewes, it's surprising how the mart staff can sort them into well--matched lots. although sometimes the idle barstewards don't bother.
But some could do with a bit of help from the more experienced and helpful drovers. I remember the first time I sold store cattle at Longtown. As the drover helped me take them to their pens, he said: ''you'll be wanting to sell these three together'' and ''this would go with that'' etc.
When we send a batch of cull ewes, it's surprising how the mart staff can sort them into well--matched lots. although sometimes the idle barstewards don't bother.
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- Scotland
The whole job of selling cattle makes me nervous. Arriving, penning them, sorting them, worrying you get in someone elses way... all of it. The UA boys around the west are good at helping but a boy left a few months ago and he is badly missed. Any of you from this part will know who I'm talking about. He had everything under control from keeping cattle that had to come off the islands a day or two early to make the sale and organising the UA floats to come out and pick up your stock while not leaving anyone behind. Legend.
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- Scottish Highlands
Apologies - it was a typo - RT = Red Tractor/ Farm Assurance