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Hilly

Member
will be interesting

we are surely seeing significant inflation which usual leads to higher interest rates to control

but i cant see interest rates rising personally, more likely to fall even

results could be a lot of “free” money ?
If I was in betting shop pls e a bet on that I’d keep my money and go to the pub instead ! 😂 tough one who knows .
 
money !

people have a lot of it right now, a lot has been printed recently

I’ve heard before that “they’re printing more money”

But how does it suddenly get circulated? It can’t all be given in the form of covid grant schemes or other forms of subsidy, can it?

I don’t think anybody is likely to receive a call from Boris saying “we’re printing money, would you like some?” So who gets it first so that it filters down?

As you’ve most likely gathered, I’m not the best economist!!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I’ve heard before that “they’re printing more money”

But how does it suddenly get circulated? It can’t all be given in the form of covid grant schemes or other forms of subsidy, can it?

I don’t think anybody is likely to receive a call from Boris saying “we’re printing money, would you like some?” So who gets it first so that it filters down?

As you’ve most likely gathered, I’m not the best economist!!

in 2008 they gave it the banks

put simply this time the governments are spending it so it filters down from there
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
the scale is massive

1/5 of all dolars were printed in the last year !

 
So how do they know when to stop? I presume there comes a point when printing too much will devalue it. I seem to remember stories of wartime Germany citizens pushing wheelbarrows full of cash around just to get a loaf of bread.

And why don’t unscrupulous dictators and over ambitious military/terrorist “governments” around the world just quietly print off money to meet their ambitions?
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Part of the problem is disrupted supply chain logistics. Lorries don't always have back loads & processing capacity is limited in some firms where working from home just doesn't get the same output. Add in delays at ports, some blatant profiteering, shifting supply & demand and some sectors are short on capacity.

Despite this, economic activity is up & the FTSE 100 index is at pre Covid levels. There is work going on!
Don't be fooled the FTSE has lost an enormous amount of ground against the DAX, CAC 40 & most stock markets, most companies will post large losses for this year so will carry those losses forward to offset profits next year UK PLC is in real trouble with a muppet in charge!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
So how do they know when to stop? I presume there comes a point when printing too much will devalue it. I seem to remember stories of wartime Germany citizens pushing wheelbarrows full of cash around just to get a loaf of bread.

And why don’t unscrupulous dictators and over ambitious military/terrorist “governments” around the world just quietly print off money to meet their ambitions?

knowing when to stop ......... that’s the question our chancellor and the BOE would love to know the answers to ! it’s very fine balance to get right

there have historically been cases of overdoing it and run away inflation in banana republics ........ it can indeed all go horribly wrong !
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Don't be fooled the FTSE has lost an enormous amount of ground against the DAX, CAC 40 & most stock markets, most companies will post large losses for this year so will carry those losses forward to offset profits next year UK PLC is in real trouble with a muppet in charge!

If we are talking about this, then market punters will know this too - why isn't this reflected in the FTSE index. You are right - the pain of 2020 is yet to be posted in year end results but interim profit levels have been reported. Once furlough ends there will be a lot more unemployed, but again, why isn't this priced in already?
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
If we are talking about this, then market punters will know this too - why isn't this reflected in the FTSE index. You are right - the pain of 2020 is yet to be posted in year end results but interim profit levels have been reported. Once furlough ends there will be a lot more unemployed, but again, why isn't this priced in already?
I think part of the reason is many FTSE companies have earned foreign currency & have benefited from the fall in the value of the pound, that advantage is slowly disappearing, the FTSE is at the same level as this time in 2019 but a long way back from this time ( pre covid) last year, where as EU exchanges are back or well ahead of this time last year
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
the scale is massive

1/5 of all dolars were printed in the last year !

How is it possible to create 20% more money from thin air without significantly devaluing the currency?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
If every country is doing the same, what does it get devalued against?

It's a race to the bottom. Devaluing your currency makes exports more attractive but creates inflation because we have so many imports from a big trade deficit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a trade deficit is wealth leaving the country...
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I think part of the reason is many FTSE companies have earned foreign currency & have benefited from the fall in the value of the pound, that advantage is slowly disappearing, the FTSE is at the same level as this time in 2019 but a long way back from this time ( pre covid) last year, where as EU exchanges are back or well ahead of this time last year

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