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Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
will be interesting

we are surely seeing significant inflation which usual leads to higher interest rates to control

but i cant see interest rates rising personally, more likely to fall even

results could be a lot of “free” money ?

Inflation creates free money for borrowers, at the expense of those who have saved carefully :mad: Rishi is just trying to keep the economy flowing, but at what cost?
 

D14

Member
How come so much demand for prettt much everthing ? Well everthing I try to buy lol get told 15 20 week wait demand is so high etc etc Disney make sense to me blaming Covid and brexit you think these things would ease demand not ramp it up ??

Basically production of everything slowed down worldwide and its not back up running properly yet. You'll struggle to find any electrical items actually in stock you can physically walk out the shop holding. Apple for example is roughly 6 weeks from order to delivery. Vehicle wise the lease companies tend to have more stock than the manufacturer dealerships.
 

Hilly

Member
Basically production of everything slowed down worldwide and its not back up running properly yet. You'll struggle to find any electrical items actually in stock you can physically walk out the shop holding. Apple for example is roughly 6 weeks from order to delivery. Vehicle wise the lease companies tend to have more stock than the manufacturer dealerships.
But raw materials are in massive demand so if production stopped raw materials would be plenty full ?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
How is it possible to create 20% more money from thin air without significantly devaluing the currency?



easy to do ................ the consequences maybe not so easy to manage however, it does indeed seriously devalue currency, that is why cash is the last thing you want right now, you need assets and debt to beat the "squeeze"

It's why everything suddenly feels that bit more expensive
 
If every country is doing the same, what does it get devalued against?

And in a similar vein, when the news bod tells us the economy has dropped back x percent, does it really matter if the rest of the worlds major economies are doing the same?

This Bear Of Very Little Brain just tries not to think about it, preferring to find comfort in the fact that some lime will eventually be needed somewhere.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Has anyone else been given the national cardboard shortage line yet?

Had 2 this week already, one from a supplier and one from a lab
Was talking to a packaging supplier yesterday, their business has gone mental , trying to keep up with demand. Shortages of cardboard because of high demand, the way we shop has changed, home delivery uses more packaging.
 

Hooby Farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
roe valley
Everything is away mad. Ordered a turbo. £350 and it's available in June, or £490 and have it in 2 days, same firm. Off the counter shell bearings 10 days wait, send the wrong ones another 10day wait. Had 2 lots of stuff at the galvanizers 5 week wait each time.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
What are you going to get borrowed up to the doo dars moving forward for then ?


Building another shed / yard at the moment with cheap money


the building will be worth more than the cost to build and I can make a higher return on it than the money costs


It's asset value will also rise with inflation whilst the magnitude of the debt falls in relative terms


No brainer

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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
as i see it, the boe, buys guvs bonds, with printed money, as the guv has significant control of the boe, interest dead low. The problem comes, if the money markets lose confidence in the £, or the guvs handling of the finances. To fully understand it, you need about 3 phd's in false accounting. Some inflation would reduce the value of the borrowing, but as the boe, is the main lender, and it bought the bonds, with printed money, you begin to understand why many 'city traders' sniff a white powder. But the true point, is that this is the result of a global pandemic, which has pretty well hit every country in the balls, so the after effect, might not be quite as painful, as first thought. Interest rates will not rise for a considerable length of time, if they did, it would result in a bloodbath of insolvency
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Another danger of printing money is asset bubbles as the newly created money is never distributed evenly it condenses in certain assets and those who own them do very well but others lose out. The problem with asset bubbles is you can only really identify them after they have burst. Examples might be Bitcoin, house prices and tech shares...
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
This Bear Of Very Little Brain just tries not to think about it, preferring to find comfort in the fact that some lime will eventually be needed somewhere.
Best way. A lot of 'intelligent' people have caused no end of damage and here we go again with Greensill and his mate Gupta 'Saviour of British Steel.' It's looking like both 'businesses' were really multi-billion £ frauds that did little more than pass IOU's between each other to disguise huge operating losses and bad debts. Greensill robbing investors that will no doubt include pension funds with promises of 'secured' financing that was anything but, and Gupta raking in millions possibly billions of taxpayer £ in return for promises of keeping jobs that will now be lost without more government bailouts
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Building another shed / yard at the moment with cheap money


the building will be worth more than the cost to build and I can make a higher return on it than the money costs


It's asset value will also rise with inflation whilst the magnitude of the debt falls in relative terms


No brainer

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What happens if anyone with spare ground borrows money to build a shed?
 

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