not defending anyone but how do you know the breeder did sell a bull that can't breed ?
hense my question above
Bull warranty.. Or not.
- Thread starter Estuarybeef
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hense my question above
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I read it that the bull was fertility tested and couldn't breed. Hence, the breeder sold a bull which can't breed.
When I've sold pups I guarantee them to work. If you're not happy, come back at any point and return the dog for a 100% no questions asked refund.
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You are correct that there are no recognised sales but there were several major sales of pedigree Limousin bulls where nobody realised at the time they were buying commercial bulls.
If you cannot trust the credentials and have little comeback how does that sit with the breed societies regarding reputation?
They may have sold a bull that can't breed now but that don't mean he couldn't when he was sold hence my question above, what would cause the puss ?
Pistonbroke
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If he gets just one in calf, according to the rules,the vendor is in the clear and you're left with a dodgy bull you don't want on the place. Pick six cows/ heifers that are empty and keep them away from any bulls,pd them as empty and get your money back. A lot of breeders have vendors insurance so they don't lose out anyway
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Vet checked 9 days after sale?
How long does a infection (I presume) take ?
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You need evidence, so a vet's report surely?
Hence the question, what did the vet say ?
Estuarybeef
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£3200 paid for the bull.
Estuarybeef
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Vet said he had soft testes and that was the way he is. No hope of him becoming a useful bull.
Estuarybeef
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Hand H said I just have to play the warranty game.
Poor show all round.
Different I should imagine if it was my local market.
Pistonbroke
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We bought a Lim bull in Carlisle at an October sale and cows were returning in December so I spoke to the auctioneer who was great and thanked me for raising the issue early( apparently most ring up when the cows are due to calf and look empty ) . He said he'd tell the vendor and the insurance company and all would be fine. Vendor couldn't give a sh!t and the insurer's vet was an arse,disputing everything our vet said. We had to take the bull for slaughter and their insurance paid the remainder,no compensation for costs or keep.Gave the vendor a bollocking for his attitude in his pen at the next sale. Made me feel better anyway
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Assuming it was a Society sale, what does the breed society’s breeding warranty say? Whatever it is, make sure you register the claim in writing. I know someone having issues with a similar problem where something was agreed verbally, then the vendor said it outside the warranty period. It can all get very messy then.
The bull’s a Jaffa, as certified by a vet, and unfit for purpose. The puss is usually the result of a testicular infection, which he may be getting over, but very often ongoing. He likely won’t come right for some time, if at all.
It is a bad show if the breeder won’t stand by him anyway, but that scenario is exactly what the warranty is for.
betweenthelines
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Report states "On this day........unsuitable for Breeding" Also enough sperm but they were dead
Sounds like an infection TBH
If I was the vendor, I'd want a second opinion/test when any infection (and treatment) is over.
Sounds like an infection TBH
If I was the vendor, I'd want a second opinion/test when any infection (and treatment) is over.
Charolais cattle
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As a member of the British Charolais society,, I'd be very disappointed with the vendor of bull,, not to stand over his bull, (wouldn't be blaming this on the society, lots of good honest breeders out there)like everything in life,, ur only as good as your last job,, so if breeder doesn't stand over the bull and word gets out,, about him, how many would be buying of him again,, as a Charolais breeder,, I'd definitely be standing over my bull,, wouldn't want crap getting out about me,, plus I always keep in contact with anyone who buys a bull to see how calves turned out in first year,, like we're they easy calving,, repeat business is key in any jobs we do in life,, if it was only fixing a washing machine 
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He’s a dishonourable fecker if he doesn’t stand on his word an sort you out and the market should be helping you more id of thought, pretty poor of them too I reckon! The vendor could of given you a few options if he was a decent bloke, ie swap for another bull of his or offer to take him back an try the bull on antibiotics an see if it was just an unfortunate simple infection, several more options I would of thought so you don’t immediately think he’s a dick!! I’d ring him up an tell him an give him the chance to sort it out amicable before I put his name in every publication I can think of and also tell him you’ll see him at the next sale and you’ll be easy to spot because you’ll be waving a placard which reads what a twisting barsteward he is!! See if that changes his attitude, worked for me in the past
Well that's the vendor outed then.
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