My in-laws have come unstuck over this as their pensions are slightly higher than the income front he cottages. They have spoken with the local MP and AM and they are looking into it.
Corona - Holiday Lets
- Thread starter SilliamWhale
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Puff
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- Location
- Up a hill in Wales
I have to say it seems very unfair. I get that they are likely trying to stop second home owners who sometimes let out their property but have it marked as a rental to avoid council tax but someone who lives in Wales and the rental is not the same house they live in, surely should apply. Besides, who, unless they have several properties would make more than 1/2 their income in holiday rentals?
SilliamWhale
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OK, it seems in Wales, to qualify for the grant, holiday cottages have to be your primary income.
Also, you need to have had 140 days booked in the 2019/20 financial year.
I fall at both hurdles.
Thats not true
Puff
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- Location
- Up a hill in Wales
These are the Ts&Cs - https://businesswales.gov.wales/cor...ts-businesses-wales-linked-non-domestic-rates - as of 20th April. If you applied before you may be OK
J B
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- Location
- Shrops/Staffs/Cheshire borders
Our email (as yet unanswered) to Liz Saville Roberts, who is the MP for the area where our FHL is ....
1. We are led to believe that in Wales, people are provided with free NHS prescriptions, free University tuition, and free business rates for small businesses. This is different to England where we pay for each of these, but it is not our place to query this.
As a FHL, to qualify for business rates, you have to have your property available for 140 days and have rented it out for 70 days.[and has been the case for many years now.] As above, these are the 'laws of the land' and it's not our place to query them
2. We therefore find it rather strange that a 'fully legal' FHL business is now not allowed a legitimate grant unless it has met a 140 day letting target, which doesn't correlate with the legal business requirement of 70 days.
1. We are led to believe that in Wales, people are provided with free NHS prescriptions, free University tuition, and free business rates for small businesses. This is different to England where we pay for each of these, but it is not our place to query this.
As a FHL, to qualify for business rates, you have to have your property available for 140 days and have rented it out for 70 days.[and has been the case for many years now.] As above, these are the 'laws of the land' and it's not our place to query them
2. We therefore find it rather strange that a 'fully legal' FHL business is now not allowed a legitimate grant unless it has met a 140 day letting target, which doesn't correlate with the legal business requirement of 70 days.
- Location
- South Wales UK
VOA set rates listings ,Local Councils Collect them.
Their crafty .
You got to be over 70 nights per cottage, and open 140 days as NDR and thus if applicable qualify for Rural rates relief.
If not met you will be taken out of NDR and the qualifying rural rates relief and PUT into the Domestic rates category and NO rural rates relief applicable.
Often Holiday cottages have sec 109 clauses attached such as 1 client per calender month etc etc so you can not let out long term.
Annoying thing is Legitimate Cottage owners are up against the so called rent a room ,granary flat ,big house attached building let out and Airbandb crowds that evade all of this and pocket the income side stepping the "above board" routes ??
SilliamWhale
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I'm still waiting for my Grant.
I learned today that holiday let business are not eligible for the self employment support scheme either.
Does anyone think we will open up again before August?
I learned today that holiday let business are not eligible for the self employment support scheme either.
Does anyone think we will open up again before August?
- Location
- South Wales UK
Why not eligible?
Self Employed and these businesses real hit?
Don't think thats correct?
SilliamWhale
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Accountant told me. Not eligible. But my farm self employment was.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Your utr and NI same thought is,nt it?
SilliamWhale
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Yes. I filled in the online form and only my farm self employment income came up. Queried it with accountant and he said said no to holiday lets. Admittedly we are due the £10k grant apparently and I'm not trying to profit from a bad job but if we don't get August then its a bit of a boxed in job.
spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
i think we'll be able to open up pretty soon unless there's a setback second spike.....my reasoning is ppl cooped up and foreign holidays goosed....my guess is open for school holidays at latest
SilliamWhale
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i think we'll be able to open up pretty soon unless there's a setback second spike.....my reasoning is ppl cooped up and foreign holidays goosed....my guess is open for school holidays at latest
Ah but in Wales we like to gold plate everything to show we care more about lives etc....
But I hope you are right - August counts for a lot
- Location
- South Wales UK
That is a strange one?
All self employed effected what ever ?
SilliamWhale
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I have not had time to look around the small print. Maybe its a "hospitality industry" difference?
- Location
- South Wales UK
- Location
- South Wales UK
SilliamWhale
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Ignore the bloody express. They want to sell papers. Germany had small pockets of reinfection and tracked them. I will never pay my BBC licence fee again and I will never buy a newspaper again. I've just had a titful of this crap.
Farmer 83563
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Seems the problem is that this scheme takes the info from the self-employed trading pages of self assessment tax returns and not the FHL boxes on the property pages. Worth raising with MP!
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Likewise!
Yesterday Sky news app had the antibody test as their top story.....BBC app had something quite negative.
This morning Sky news app had "London could be free of the virus by the end of the month" whereas BBC app "Unions say schools shouldn't go back so quickly".
BBC really don't like to run the good news stories.