Drill markers and new to drilling

[640]

hi everyone totally new to any type of forums so sorry if this is in wrong place for a starter was wondering if anyone could help me on drilling I'm new to it and seem to be over to the left all the time missing one way and overlapping the other I've tried everything measuring till my head hurts I've put a marker on front weight to line up with so i sit in same place all the time the only way I've found to get it somewhere near is to have one marker 5' longer than the other is this normal and sorry forgot to say its a 3 meter combination brand new

 

[Pan mixer]

hi everyone totally new to any type of forums so sorry if this is in wrong place for a starter was wondering if anyone could help me on drilling I'm new to it and seem to be over to the left all the time missing one way and overlapping the other I've tried everything measuring till my head hurts I've put a marker on front weight to line up with so i sit in same place all the time the only way I've found to get it somewhere near is to have one marker 5' longer than the other is this normal and sorry forgot to say its a 3 meter combination brand new

Try setting the markers up to the centre of the tractor if you can.

Some drills pull a bit sideways but it shouldn't be a problem with a combination drill.

Is the drill evenly mounted on the power harrow?

check chains loose enough?

Tyre pressure in the back tractor tyres?

Arms the same length?

Field with an awkward slope?

 

[del_boy]

hi everyone totally new to any type of forums so sorry if this is in wrong place for a starter was wondering if anyone could help me on drilling I'm new to it and seem to be over to the left all the time missing one way and overlapping the other I've tried everything measuring till my head hurts I've put a marker on front weight to line up with so i sit in same place all the time the only way I've found to get it somewhere near is to have one marker 5' longer than the other is this normal and sorry forgot to say its a 3 meter combination brand new

When i used to drill with a 3m and marker arms i used to have my seat turned and I always had one marker longer than the other. Whatever works best for you, get yourself comfortable and set up the markers to suit

 

[640]

Try setting the markers up to the centre of the tractor if you can.

Some drills pull a bit sideways but it shouldn't be a problem with a combination drill.

Is the drill evenly mounted on the power harrow?

check chains loose enough?

Tyre pressure in the back tractor tyres?

Arms the same length?

Field with an awkward slope?

cheers will try measuring off tractor instead of drill when you say check chains do you have them slack I've tried slack but i ended up locking them off

 

[640]

When i used to drill with a 3m and marker arms i used to have my seat turned and I always had one marker longer than the other. Whatever works best for you, get yourself comfortable and set up the markers to suit

yea i normally have my seat on a slant but I've straightened it up for drilling i still sit on a slant tho if i don't watch myself

 

[Pan mixer]

cheers will try measuring off tractor instead of drill when you say check chains do you have them slack I've tried slack but i ended up locking them off

evenly slack but not too slack.

 

[kc6475]

I get the combi central to the tractor and set the check chains with a slight equal movement both sides, if your top link pulls straight when drilling then you should be central, set both markers equal and seat straight forward and it should only be a matter of fine tuning your joins. Not being funny but is your vision ok, only ask because I had a similar thing with someone he kept steering to one side, so I set the machine up and did a couple of rounds no problem, he jumped on and straight away was off too one side, turned out it was his vision causing it, hopefully not that with you but unless your markers are mounted wrong on the drill then you shouldn't be having one a lot longer than the other.

 

[B R C]

It may be because you have your master eye dominating, you just need to get out check row to row and adjust markers accordingly, they may well end up being different lengths. I had different length markers when I combi drilled.

 

[640]

It may be because you have your master eye dominating, you just need to get out check row to row and adjust markers accordingly, they may well end up being different lengths. I had different length markers when I combi drilled.

cheers i did check row to row thats why i ended up 5"out just thought it was me doing something wrong cos it looks so wrong when folded up having one so much longer than other cheers again tho

 

[fudge]

hi everyone totally new to any type of forums so sorry if this is in wrong place for a starter was wondering if anyone could help me on drilling I'm new to it and seem to be over to the left all the time missing one way and overlapping the other I've tried everything measuring till my head hurts I've put a marker on front weight to line up with so i sit in same place all the time the only way I've found to get it somewhere near is to have one marker 5' longer than the other is this normal and sorry forgot to say its a 3 meter combination brand new

I agree with the above, if having one marker longer than the other works for you what’s the problem? Setting up the wing mirrors so you can see the edge of the work is something else I find useful.
Does the drill have disc coulters? I have never used a combination with disc coulters but trailed drills I have used with discs tend to crab the whole outfit. If that’s the case lengthening one marker might be necessary.

 

[640]

I agree with the above, if having one marker longer than the other works for you what’s the problem? Setting up the wing mirrors so you can see the edge of the work is something else I find useful.
Does the drill have disc coulters? I have never used a combination with disc coulters but trailed drills I have used with discs tend to crab the whole outfit. If that’s the case lengthening one marker might be necessary.

theres no problem just was worrying a bit with drilling being new to me i actually did move my mirrors on last few fields and your right it did help a lot

 

[640]

I get the combi central to the tractor and set the check chains with a slight equal movement both sides, if your top link pulls straight when drilling then you should be central, set both markers equal and seat straight forward and it should only be a matter of fine tuning your joins. Not being funny but is your vision ok, only ask because I had a similar thing with someone he kept steering to one side, so I set the machine up and did a couple of rounds no problem, he jumped on and straight away was off too one side, turned out it was his vision causing it, hopefully not that with you but unless your markers are mounted wrong on the drill then you shouldn't be having one a lot longer than the other.

top link was pulling straight starting to think its my eyes now vision is fine but i do have a dominant eye didn't think it would affect it that much tho but looks like it is

 

[DrWazzock]

I perhaps have a similar problem. I think it’s to do with neither one eye nor the other being dominant. Close left eye and mark moves a bit one way, close the other eye and it moves back a bit the other way. With both eyes open in my case the mark tends to switch positions randomly, so I end up having to keep my left eye closed all the time if I want to match up to an inch with the beet drill. Drilling grain I am not too bothered about perfect match up so if the gap switches a bit it doesn’t matter. I keep both eyes open.

I have been in and out the cab about 8 million times before now fiddling with bout markers but as you say it doesn’t help. The only thing that solved it for me was keeping one eye closed and keeping the open eye looking through two central points along the bonnet and keeping those on the mark, like gun sights (one near your eye and other on end of barrel). Can have one mark in centre of windscreen and the other mark is a stick up from centre of front end of bonnet.
I think this is why some target shooters wear an eye patch.
I find keeping one eye closed quite irritating though. If I could find a better way I would do. Maybe glasses with a blacked out lens.

 

[DrWazzock]

Crabbing on hillsides is something else. You need to drive a bit to one side of the line by an amount learned by experience, particularly with a trained drill.

 

[Chae1]

top link was pulling straight starting to think its my eyes now vision is fine but i do have a dominant eye didn't think it would affect it that much tho but looks like it is

I think it's natural, the way our brain works makes us steer to one side subconsciously. I remember doing a offroad driving course and the instructor told us this, and found he was right. Pretty sure its left.

What do you have on front? I remember in another thread someone suggested having something the width of implement mounted and run this to last bit of worked ground.

 

[DrWazzock]

I think it’s important to have two central points along the bonnet, one at windscreen end and one at far end of bonnet. Line them both up on the mark made on the soil.

if you only have the one central point along the bonnet at the far end then the position of your head could be off centre in the cab which will cause an error .

I might not be right so take this with a pinch of salt but you might be able to glean something from it. Good luck.

 

[DrWazzock]

I think it's natural, the way our brain works makes us steer to one side subconsciously. I remember doing a offroad driving course and the instructor told us this, and found he was right. Pretty sure its left.

What do you have on front? I remember in another thread someone suggested having something the width of implement mounted and run this to last bit of worked ground.

yes, sometimes running the front wheel on a mark is easier to match up bouts than driving to a centre mark, but harder to keep the line straight.

 

[640]

I perhaps have a similar problem. I think it’s to do with neither one eye nor the other being dominant. Close left eye and mark moves a bit one way, close the other eye and it moves back a bit the other way. With both eyes open in my case the mark tends to switch positions randomly, so I end up having to keep my left eye closed all the time if I want to match up to an inch with the beet drill. Drilling grain I am not too bothered about perfect match up so if the gap switches a bit it doesn’t matter. I keep both eyes open.

I have been in and out the cab about 8 million times before now fiddling with bout markers but as you say it doesn’t help. The only thing that solved it for me was keeping one eye closed and keeping the open eye looking through two central points along the bonnet and keeping those on the mark, like gun sights (one near your eye and other on end of barrel). Can have one mark in centre of windscreen and the other mark is a stick up from centre of front end of bonnet.
I think this is why some target shooters wear an eye patch.
I find keeping one eye closed quite irritating though. If I could find a better way I would do. Maybe glasses with a blacked out lens.

i did similar i put a mark on centre of front weight and lined it with bonnet marker like a gun but like you say keeping my eye shut started getting seriously uncomfortable think altering markers to suit my eyes is my only option by looks of it cheers tho

 

[640]

I think it's natural, the way our brain works makes us steer to one side subconsciously. I remember doing a offroad driving course and the instructor told us this, and found he was right. Pretty sure its left.

What do you have on front? I remember in another thread someone suggested having something the width of implement mounted and run this to last bit of worked ground.

at moment i only have a weight but thinking of getting a 3m press

 

[Muddyroads]

I always found it much more accurate to set the markers for the inside of the front wheels. No need to guess where your centre line is, you’re either on the mark or you’re not.