Fire sticks

BuskhillFarm

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Arable Farmer
Look a great job. I have a fire extinguisher in the tractor but always afraid it either won’t work or all the size of it won’t have enough in it. These look perfect. Will definitely be buying one for each tractor
 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
We’ve been thinking on other elements and wondered if we could offer a belt pouch which could hold a fire safety stick whether it would be of use to the farming fraternity and if there would be demand - would love to know if you think they’d be good?
Helen
 

Chris F

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Hammerwich
Look a great job. I have a fire extinguisher in the tractor but always afraid it either won’t work or all the size of it won’t have enough in it. These look perfect. Will definitely be buying one for each tractor

I have got a pair to put in the cars - much better than the current extinguisher, which in under my desk in the office waiting to be re-charged. These are a great thing to have in every pickup.
 

Highland Mule

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Chris F

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May be worth checking but I have a suspicion that they won't work on your Polestar, from a brief study of the chemistry involved in both.

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Company car - that can go up in flames ;)

Other cars with engines are the problem. Although I might put one in the race car as well, as deploying the built in system for engine and cockpit is really messy and really expensive to recharge if its only a minor issue. Simeone told me they are used in a lot of rally cars in Ireland, if I remember correctly.
 

Hampton

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Shropshire
Company car - that can go up in flames ;)

Other cars with engines are the problem. Although I might put one in the race car as well, as deploying the built in system for engine and cockpit is really messy and really expensive to recharge if its only a minor issue. Simeone told me they are used in a lot of rally cars in Ireland, if I remember correctly.
Hadn’t heard of these things before, but I was reading through the thread and thought
Romain Grosjean could have done with one of these in his F1 car!
then I read your post and it seems “great minds”
 

Chris F

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Hadn’t heard of these things before, but I was reading through the thread and thought
Romain Grosjean could have done with one of these in his F1 car!
then I read your post and it seems “great minds”

I think he may have need about 50!

I was more thinking of when there is a minor issue on the test day and you want to use extinguisher - but not the full system. It's a right pain getting it refilled plus, it makes one hell of a mess. A big engine fire though, and I'm pushing the in-cab button and getting covered.
 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
May be worth checking but I have a suspicion that they won't work on your Polestar, from a brief study of the chemistry involved in both.

ignition of Lithium Ion Battery - ScienceDirecthttps://www.sciencedirect.com › science › article › pii › pdf
Hiya Highland Mule

You are dead right on that and it's a real challenge for everyone - there isn't yet a extinguishant that can put out a lithium fire. The issue here is that lithium fires are so hot they reignite even after oxygen has been removed.

There is much research going into this not least for underground car parks where as you can imagine the risk is huge but sadly whilst FSS may assist in putting it out and suppressing it, it wouldn't be the golden bullet to prevent reignition on lithium.

Helen
 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
I think he may have need about 50!

I was more thinking of when there is a minor issue on the test day and you want to use extinguisher - but not the full system. It's a right pain getting it refilled plus, it makes one hell of a mess. A big engine fire though, and I'm pushing the in-cab button and getting covered.
It's been really interesting that the Rally and now road motor sports industry have taken to the product. We're not involved in those sectors but I know a couple of marshals who do races at Silverstone and they've bought some to put to their belts as a rapid action tool for engine fires.

One large motor racing team have also bought into them but sadly I'm sworn to secrecy at pains of death for naming them - but they're not doing too bad this year ;-)
 

Heathman19

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Suffolk
Look a great job. I have a fire extinguisher in the tractor but always afraid it either won’t work or all the size of it won’t have enough in it. These look perfect. Will definitely be buying one for each tractor
I've let off a lot of extinguishers, at various fires and to be honest you might as well just shout at it. They last seconds and unless it's a very small contained fire they don't really achieve much.
 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
I've let off a lot of extinguishers, at various fires and to be honest you might as well just shout at it. They last seconds and unless it's a very small contained fire they don't really achieve much.
You're right Heathman

A typical 1kg fire extinguisher will discharge in 15 seconds. A 2 kg will normally, if fully charged and maintained, discharge in 25-30 seconds but often when serviced they are tested so that pressure drops or liquid wasted - small amounts but about 0.5 - 1 second each time.

Fire Safety Sticks are either 50 seconds (ideal for a car, van, horsebox etc) or 100 seconds for heavier machinery and equipment like tractors and combines.

Helen
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
Its a shame the price is about £20 too expensive on here. It adds up, I'm looking at 4x.


 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
Its a shame the price is about £20 too expensive on here. It adds up, I'm looking at 4x.


HI PSQ

We have the agricultural pack on here which includes an extra bracket and tamper tag which makes it slightly more than the standard ones. Not £20 mind :). We do recommend the tamper tags as they do ensure the strike cap doesn't come off as this is critical.

You could buy 2 and then perhaps get a couple of brackets so could move the 2 around ? Have you got the Harvest22 code as that offers 10% off?

Helen
 

Chris F

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Hammerwich
Its a shame the price is about £20 too expensive on here. It adds up, I'm looking at 4x.



Says out of stock. So price is a bit irrelevant. Also 4 x 100 Seconds was cheaper when you posted at £90.20 each. There has already been a price rise on FMP. You may see this on the rally site when they come back in stock there.
 

Firesafetystick

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Arable Farmer
Says out of stock. So price is a bit irrelevant. Also 4 x 100 Seconds was cheaper when you posted at £90.20 each. There has already been a price rise on FMP. You may see this on the rally site when they come back in stock there.
I would add Chris and PQQ that this is not the agri version so lacks the additional clamp for vehicles and the tamper tags which are essential for the Agricultural sector. I wouldn't guarantee they will have more stock
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
Says out of stock. So price is a bit irrelevant. Also 4 x 100 Seconds was cheaper when you posted at £90.20 each. There has already been a price rise on FMP. You may see this on the rally site when they come back in stock there.

@Chris, I suspect you're missing the vat status.

"£92.95 inc VAT" = £77.46 + VAT, free delivery. They were in stock last week.

TFF was £111 inc Vat = £92.50 +Vat
Less TFF discount of 10% = £83.25.

Apart from a cheap plastic clip, which price is lower, £77.46 or a 'bargain' £83.25?
As farmers we buy 'best value'.

And as a wise man once said, "never let yourself be sold to", shortly before he set up a farming forum that now sells lots of things to farmers...
 

Firesafetystick

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Hi. The invoices are issued once you pay for the product to your email address by marketplace.farm. Please check your spam or email ordered against.
Helen
 

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