Killing peas

[Farma Parma]

We used to cut 40+ acres a day of peas with a 16ft JD, ( or 5 acres a day), you just need the condition to be right and you can cut at some tremendous speeds, helps if they are laid in a uniform direction, having to cut one way and run back empty doesn,t do your cut rate any good.
We stopped with the reglone and changed to roundup at the time we had plenty of bindweed, reglone only ever crisped the top leaves of the bindweed.

The way to eliminate bindweed is stop growing spuds in eelworm overloaded fields for 18 years

I forgot to mention we had to cut mine all one way this year so had all the running back empty time to consider
It would have been good cutting before the monsoon hit it 3wks earlier

 

[teslacoils]

Anyo e used a sund raking header for peas?

 

[Neddy flanders]

It does but you have to be more patient thats all.
Peas n Patience dont both work in sequence every year thats the trouble

You cut 120ac in one day
How many Combines to do that?
25ft header 400hp machine we just managed 20ac a day here, you rarely can start until lunchtime & then 5-6pm your about stopped
All coz of sunshine mainly

we got very lucky. peas were dead flat, no more than 8" off the deck. yet they seem to fly in the front of JD 630x header at over 6kph. purely because it was a scorching hot day. don't ever expect combining to go like that again

 

[whingeing farmer]

Anyone grown Kabuki peas this year? We grew 9ha which yielded very poorly due to lack of pod fill. Daytona in the same field did really well. Seem to be having a few issues with the merchant about poor seed quality or a fault with the variety. Any other experiences out there?

 

[yellow belly]

Anyone notilled peas never tried any would try a 5 acre field but grow beans which may clash with desease Carry over

I have combined beans with pods close to the ground less than 3 inches above the soil
would peas be no worse

 

[goodevans]

You are right, glyphosate wont kill peas unfortunately

When I used to spray hedge bottoms with knapsack before it was banned I can always remember that if I walked to a pole in middle of field there would be a dead trail of peas that had caught the roundup off my footwear,of course the plants were young and growing vigorously at this stage

 

[An Gof]

I like that.

Years ago they grew a companion crop of Triumph Spring Barley with combining peas. Triumph was very short stiff straw to hold peas up. Combine together and clean and separate post harvest.

Not sure that it ever really caught on ......

 

[An Gof]

I’m planning 120 ha of large blue peas next year. With the demise of Reglone am I mad to think glyphosate will kill them? The attraction of Reglone was its ability to burn the foliage to a crisp in a few days. I’ve sprayed off some cover crop recently that had a few peas in the mix, everything is now dead apart from the peas which are still remarkably green .

Best roll twice with a heavy roller ?

 

[goodevans]

Best roll twice with a heavy roller ?

That's a harsh way to kill them!

 

[Banana Bar]

Best roll twice with a heavy roller [emoji106]

Henry’s on the combine, I’ll just run that by him.

 

[California]

Anyone grown Kabuki peas this year? We grew 9ha which yielded very poorly due to lack of pod fill. Daytona in the same field did really well. Seem to be having a few issues with the merchant about poor seed quality or a fault with the variety. Any other experiences out there?

We have had various neighbours try Kabuki and I have never heard anyone say a good word about them. If you're growing a marrowfat I'd suggest Sakura.

 

[California]

We tried glyphosate on peas once. It did a job eventually but it was hopelessly slow. Can't remember how long but 3-4 weeks. Peas in my experience are not a patient man's crop. Nothing worse than driving past as they get flatter and flatter to the ground with more and more stain, bleaching, pod shatter etc.
We always got on really well with Reglone in peas (as someone suggested, perhaps not the best on bindweed but we never had too many issues with that thankfully). It will be a big loss on the farm as obviously it was really important in potatoes too. Reglone 7-10 days prior to harvest (depending on weather) in the peas did a great job.
We've finally given up peas this time after 3 poor years (good looking crops, just the wrong weather). Peas hate wet feet and compacted soils and round here there has been an awful lot of that since June.

 

[B'o'B]

Anyone notilled peas never tried any would try a 5 acre field but grow beans which may clash with desease Carry over

I have combined beans with pods close to the ground less than 3 inches above the soil
would peas be no worse

Yes, pretty much every year. Generally works very well for us, vining peas for seed. They always go dead flat so firm uncultivated ground helps stops the combine header bulldozing soil so much. Different ground to yours though.

 

[whingeing farmer]

Yep. Tried no till peas a couple of years back on a 0.5ha block which I left uncultivated in a 12ha field......what a disaster. Thankfully the rest of the field did well. Wish i'd kept photos to show how poorly it worked.

 

[Farma Parma]

Peas really need perfect weather,Zero compaction, Then just enought rain to get them away then very little rain after that.
Thats pretty much never going to happen in the UK most years.
It did in 2015 my first year of growing them from scratch on my own & did 2.2t/ac Been nowwhere near that every year since.
Pushing my luck got more acres going in this next spring mainly due to cropping changes.

 

[Fish]

No till peas, three different years, three different fields.

 

[Farma Parma]

Lovely that a credit too ya
i'll bet its no some of the Heavy Clay i have to work on with tho.
I'll have to see if i have some pics from that 2015 crop now....

 

[Fish]

Lovely that a credit too ya
i'll bet its no some of the Heavy Clay i have to work on with tho.
I'll have to see if i have some pics from that 2015 crop now....

Yes to be fair, it is mostly, medium loam/sandy clay loam.
We do have quite a lot of silty clay loam and that's not really pea ground, much better in beans or linseed.

 

[Farma Parma]

Yes to be fair, it is mostly, medium loam/sandy clay loam.
We do have quite a lot of silty clay loam and that's not really pea ground, much better in beans or linseed.

Land here imho not right for beans as there so late to be harvested we always struggled to get wheat in afterwards.
None of these issues with the peas.
Quite a heavy field one thats been ploughed since early Oct & was meant for WB but its getting Peas for the 1st time in its life afaik.
It might also be the last time, going to make it into a slightly bigger field then after pulling old wire fence down next to one part of it &
get rid of what can be a troublesome headland some years buy doing this.
There is only one other field here i could do the same maybes one day, all the rest are 75% fulled hedged up.

 

[whingeing farmer]

All credit to you Fish. Wish I could grow a crop of peas like those with no till. Will be sowing Daytone again this season. Like to get them combined early and get a first wheat in ( haven't found a better break crop than peas yet). Would be interested to know how long you've been on zero till? And what drill you're using?