KRM M2w as a used buy

[Boydvalley]

I’m Replacing an ancient Amazon spreader and have decided I’m getting a Krm. Not spreading much and would go for basic L series, but looking around there are a lot of 10year old M2w. Got me thinking that having weigh cells would be great to know he actual weight applied as doing small fields, light applications and only one or two fields at a time. Also managed to have five different products to apply this year
Are these trouble at this age or are they just over kill for the bit I do.
Many thanks

 

[Bobthebuilder]

10yr old would be a no no from me they’ll be well worn and if not seriously well looked after rust will be well set in

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Also the replacement vanes are not cheap for KRM machines and you’ll probably need at least 2 sets

 

[Boysground]

I’ve got a 8 year old machine, it’s just starting to rust on a couple of corners. Will be putting new grids in before the season starts. Has always tray tested with no problems. Still on the original actuators.

Has been a good machine, I think weigh cells are almost essential these days given the cost of fertiliser. Budget on a new set of vanes, check the agitator bearings and a fair chance the screens are rusty.

The app for calibration is very good and a hydraulic top link is very handy as you need to adjust the machine angle more than other makes.

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[Flat 10]

@robbie did a similar move I believe

 

[jack6480]

Definite no no. I’ve got one and it’s awful

 

[milton-95]

We got one a m2w couple years ago, it would be about the 8/10 year old mark. Can't really say it's that great, was having problems with the actuators in the spring and it was playing havoc with the rates, and the area it though it was applying too. Hopefully got it sorted now though.

Worst though is it strips the steep ground, great on flat ground but the hills have come out in strips every time now.

Also not that keen on the app for finding the right settings, it's a right faff about and time consuming and doesn't always come up with a match.

It's nice enough to work when it's going right, but I wouldn't rush to have another. Rather look for a kuhn.

 

[An Gof]

Definite no no. I’ve got one and it’s awful

Strange the different experiences people have. I have had two KRM Bogballe machines the current one is a M2W and I have a new one to replace it on order with delivery expected this month.
Have to say I have found them to be excellent, but I have always bought brand new and replace them every 7 years or so.

 

[robbie]

Im With @An Gof. I changed a amazone ZAM for an M2W and I'm thrilled to bits with it and wish id got one years ago.

Simple to set up, just set the angle, enter rate into box and off you go.

Mine has been well looked after by it's previous owner which helps.

 

[davidroberts30]

We got one a m2w couple years ago, it would be about the 8/10 year old mark. Can't really say it's that great, was having problems with the actuators in the spring and it was playing havoc with the rates, and the area it though it was applying too. Hopefully got it sorted now though.

Worst though is it strips the steep ground, great on flat ground but the hills have come out in strips every time now.

Also not that keen on the app for finding the right settings, it's a right faff about and time consuming and doesn't always come up with a match.

It's nice enough to work when it's going right, but I wouldn't rush to have another. Rather look for a kuhn.

How does it stripe?
I thought with the double double overlap that was near impossible

 

[Boysground]

Poor quality fertiliser never helps any machine. The only time I’ve had a serious stripe was entirely my fault. Too much fertiliser, too fast and overloading the discs.
Definitely not a flat farm, have combine getting up the hill issues on some fields

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[cousinjack]

The ‘m’ is physically wider than the ‘L’. Could be of consideration on the roads and tight gateways etc…

I replaced mine recently and just went for another ‘L’
Simple and easy to fix.

 

[2wheels]

We got one a m2w couple years ago, it would be about the 8/10 year old mark. Can't really say it's that great, was having problems with the actuators in the spring and it was playing havoc with the rates, and the area it though it was applying too. Hopefully got it sorted now though.

Worst though is it strips the steep ground, great on flat ground but the hills have come out in strips every time now.

Also not that keen on the app for finding the right settings, it's a right faff about and time consuming and doesn't always come up with a match.

It's nice enough to work when it's going right, but I wouldn't rush to have another. Rather look for a kuhn.

funny you say it stripes. a lot of folk slag off amazone for striping but the only amazone that striped with us was a model from the 80's which altered the spread pattern by changing the angle of tilt forwards/backwards. the 2 models that we had after that ran level and i can honestly say we never had stripes with them. neighbours with kuhn had stripes. the amazones were pretty tough machines, up to 400acres a year on top of rough ploughing for veg crops.

 

[Bury the Trash]

How does it stripe?
I thought with the double double overlap that was near impossible

well it is possible to stripe because ours does, its older but well maintained and in good condition and only used on 12m 0r 15m.

rather than top link angle altered too much i think pto speed will be the best way of getting it to spread evenly.

 

[Banana Bar]

Strange the different experiences people have. I have had two KRM Bogballe machines the current one is a M2W and I have a new one to replace it on order with delivery expected this month.
Have to say I have found them to be excellent, but I have always bought brand new and replace them every 7 years or so.

There is a good reason why you are changing at 7 years, that is the same reason I wouldn’t want to buy an older one. General appearance on these machines is usually good, it’s the hidden corrosion on wiring joins, plugs etc that will let them down.


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[7610 super q]

Mine must be a bit older, no actuators, no electrics.

Very simple, accurate, and so far reliable. A revelation after years with a Vicon wagtail. Some rust on the lower framework, none on the hopper.
Vanes are, as said, silly money.

 

[David.]

The fact that machine angle appears fairly critical to spread pattern makes it a big no from me.
Had a similar Amazone from 80s and maintaining correct pitch angle was nigh on impossible, with squashy rear tyres on a smaller tractor and decreasing rear loading as spreader empties.
Would only have one that runs flat now, as it is just about possible to maintain horizontal by eye.

 

[milton-95]

How does it stripe?
I thought with the double double overlap that was near impossible

I put it down to the angle of the feild altering the drop point on the disc, it's mostly on grass fields (probably because they're the steeper ones) . First year was all yara Fert , so can't really blame it on cheap fert.

 

[Blue.]

After swapping from an Amazone to a KRM I’ll never have an Amazone again,never striped with the KRM and I’d be going on some very steep land.

 

[robbie]

Same here, always had amazones but every newer one we had got worse and worse for striping, new vanes, tray test premium fert and we couldn't get it right.
Changed to a KRM and it's been perfect.

On a separate note the rep did tell me last year that it's best to run with too much angle than not enough. I was getting very concerned about the right angle as the load decreased but I now just put 2 bags in(half a load ish) set angle to what the app says and then give the top link another turn for luck and it spreads perfectly.