Mansel Davies haulier.

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Mansel Davies whose milk tankers haul the vast majority of milk produced in South Wales has lost its Operator's License, commencing February 2021. This is due to a well known breech of statutory truck maintenance standards for which they were prosecuted some time ago. The report below is scathing about the director's conduct and ethos. The issue now is whether the younger generation of the family, who have now apparently taken over as director's, after the elders resigned just before the enquiry, succeed in regaining an operator's license. The elders have lost it permanently and will apparently never be eligible to run a haulage business again.

It is quite essential for the S Wales economy generally, as well as for many hundreds of dairy farmers, that Mansel Davies transitions successfully with no interruption in their overall business at the operational level and it is to be hoped that VOSA or whoever is responsible for licensing, realise the implications here while obviously ensuring that the company management is vastly improved.

 

Pennine Ploughing

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Mixed Farmer
it will be doubtful the next generation will get an operating license, as when a local man got found guilty of bypassing AddBlue, they would not give the next generation a chance,
their argument was, the old ones would still pull the strings,
so it all ended
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Be a huge gap in the market if they go out of business
I hope that is not an option. The worry, I imagine, for the regulating authority is that the younger generation may be director's in name only in such a family business. They must surely need to demonstrate a clean break with the past generation and management to satisfy regulators to approve a new operator's license.

This is a worry for the thousands of businesses that rely on MD to haul their goods. However it is only one, and probably the least of several challenges we all face currently.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
it will be doubtful the next generation will get an operating license, as when a local man got found guilty of bypassing AddBlue, they would not give the next generation a chance,
their argument was, the old ones would still pull the strings,
so it all ended
Ah. We think alike and I'm sure the authorities have this in mind. I've posted similar above while you were posting.

EDIT
I see from the article that the company itself has been barred from ever holding an operator's license again. Therefore it stands to reason that the new directors will not succeed and that a whole new company will need to somehow take over. Not entirely sure of all the implications of this but it doesn't sound good. If I was their banker currently…………. Oh dear!
 
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7610 super q

Never Forgotten
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Oh well, David Jones will have to step up to the plate with his "H" reg ( 1970, not 1990 ) truck and flatbed borrowed from Mainport training ( complete with giant L plates ) :)
 

JeepJeep

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Trade
Someone I knew found themselves on the wrong side of Vosa after a whole world of being naughty episodes.

Meanwhile in the middle of it all they went pop with a serious bang. Que lots of new smaller business starting in family members names. Vosa blew them out as quick as they were lit.
 
Location
West Wales
Ah. We think alike and I'm sure the authorities have this in mind. I've posted similar above while you were posting.

EDIT
I see from the article that the company itself has been barred from ever holding an operator's license again. Therefore it stands to reason that the new directors will not succeed and that a whole new company will need to somehow take over. Not entirely sure of all the implications of this but it doesn't sound good. If I was their banker currently…………. Oh dear!

new licence already agree and a change in company structure
 

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
They are God but they police the standards that all hauliers have to comply with
Yes I know. Years ago we had a restrict Operator’s licence for a non hgv cattle truck. We had to attend a group meeting with a commissioner and in no uncertain terms he laid the law down, even though we had only just got the license. I’m glad we got rid of the truck when we got a ring fenced farm.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Should never have closed Felinfach
WTF has a balancing factory that only operated for between a third and half the year making butter, shut and sold on, at least three decades ago, got to do with this? I'm curious as to the logic that got you there. Especially as the factory site still takes in whey from other dairies and uses membrane technology to make protein products, while the whole site has expanded beyond any dreamer's expectations when the MMB ran it.
 
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
new licence already agree and a change in company structure
According to the linked article posted at 10am this morning…….

"The traffic commissioner was made aware of an application by a linked company to take over the revoked company’s operation. This application, involving a younger generation of the Mansel Davies family, was not formally considered as part of the public inquiry. But the traffic commissioner did hear from the new directors and transport manager and agreed that they could represent a marked and necessary shift in the culture of the business. That application is still under consideration."
 
Location
West Wales
According to the linked article posted at 10am this morning…….

"The traffic commissioner was made aware of an application by a linked company to take over the revoked company’s operation. This application, involving a younger generation of the Mansel Davies family, was not formally considered as part of the public inquiry. But the traffic commissioner did hear from the new directors and transport manager and agreed that they could represent a marked and necessary shift in the culture of the business. That application is still under consideration."
Unless they are telling porkies I’ve just rang my milk buyer and he’s been told that it’s already set up and the news should reach the press Monday
 

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