New Chinese loaders & telehandlers?

[Sharpy]

I have done work for a two guys that have worked in China, in high up positions, for worldwide companies . They both said the attitude was the difference. If you asked a western firm to build you a car for £2000 they would refuse. A Chinese firm would say"no problem, it will be sh!t though. How many do you want."

 

[Farmer 83563]

Only thing to come out of China so far that’s stood the test of time is the virus!

Might explain why my new Quicke loader bucket buckled when it clipped a stachion on it's second outing! Brackets wont align with the headstock. Waiting to hear back from the rep!!

 

[oil barron]

I have done work for a two guys that have worked in China, in high up positions, for worldwide companies . They both said the attitude was the difference. If you asked a western firm to build you a car for £2000 they would refuse. A Chinese firm would say"no problem, it will be sh!t though. How many do you want."

I had a mate doing work in a Chinese ship yard. When it came to final inspection they asked for the Lloyds certifications. The Chinese huddled then came back to ask for an example of a Lloyd’s stamp. The paperwork appeared the next day with a Loyds stamp. When the issue was raised, they said no problem, we will fix the stamp.

 

[oil barron]

Might explain why my new Quicke loader bucket buckled when it clipped a stachion on it's second outing! Brackets wont align with the headstock. Waiting to hear back from the rep!!View attachment 893345

pretty disappointing that a company like Alö known for its high quality steel and forging a has lowered itself to this.

 

[Farmer 83563]

pretty disappointing that a company like Alö known for its high quality steel and forging a has lowered itself to this.

It'll be the last attachment I buy from Alö if they dont offer any support. I have around 10 of theirs in total. Heard Eastern Attachments are well made and UK fabricated... anyone have experience of them?

 

[Ashtree]

Don’t know what it is, but half an hour after a good Chinese, you are starving again.
Should have had that steak and chips.
Same with equipment. The Chinese stuff don’t last long.

 

[daveydiesel1]

It'll be the last attachment I buy from Alö if they dont offer any support. I have around 10 of theirs in total. Heard Eastern Attachments are well made and UK fabricated... anyone have experience of them?

Scott buckets in garvagh is good quality stuf if ur gonna buy a bucket again

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Like the cheap spanners that bend like toffee, or rusts like it was left in a fertiliser spreader?

It's a bit of a sport in China to make a copy of somebody elses product and do it cheaper. I've seen stuff for sale an identical copy of expensive brand name tools, just with no branding. You know damn well if you contacted the factory they would put the brand name back on if you asked them, and put it in the branded box and send you a container load of such items and very few people would know the difference on the surface.

It will be interesting in a few years, because while many may dismiss the highly visible Chinese junk there are a hell of a lot of competent designers and engineers in China these days and the numbers are growing with their growing middle class. Many western universities have a large number of Chinese students and they are studying the hard subjects earning themselves science and engineering degrees rather than pissing about for 3 years doing psychology and art history. I don't think it will be all that long before Made in China carries the same weight as Made in Japan for high end electronics, or Made in Germany for mechanical components. Even now, amongst the junk there is some real quality kit at extremely competitive prices.

Yeah I thought the same thing bout 10 years ago. Still waiting.

 

[Fast Farmer]

I wanted some stainless spark plug covers making for my car, so found a company up north, measured what I wanted, sent a template and spent quite abit of money and guess what the whole batch was wrong size p, couldn't even modify to fit the mounting holes, and they wouldn't give me my money back! so found a company in China sent out the template on paper and guess what the batch was perfect and half the price...

 

[Ukjay]

, or Made in Germany for mechanical components. .

Unfortunately, Germany have gone the same way as many in terms of quality and the Old German quality is not what it used to be.
Even the attitude to work is not like it was...

A lot of rose tinted glasses get worn when talking about German Engineering etc, when the truth is somewhat different.

Or perhaps buy from local shops.....

Sadly the local shops will still sell Chinese goods though - as there is very little today that does not have Chinese components or made in China, because everyone wants cheap..

I have done work for a two guys that have worked in China, in high up positions, for worldwide companies . They both said the attitude was the difference. If you asked a western firm to build you a car for £2000 they would refuse. A Chinese firm would say"no problem, it will be sh!t though. How many do you want."

This is an accurate account of the equation, and one which people do not want to admit.
You go to China, say I need this or that and I want it to cost X, this is simply to maximise profit this end - and the companies doing it couldn't care less about quality.

For every 1 complaint, there will be 1000's of happy customers who have made the company in question serious profits - so it all boils down to economics of scale...

 

[startinghandle]

I am thinking of buying a new Chinese
handcrank single cylinder Diesel engine direct from manufacturer
Not so sure now !

 

[Badshot]

I have read here that MF transmission
are assembled in China
JCB also

That's not true either.
Go for a trip round Beauvais mf tractor factory in France.
Half is tractor, half is transmissions, proudly stating that everything assembled there is European made.
It's an impressive plant.

 

[tullah]

Kick them out of the top universities. I wonder why they are studying biology and the sciences.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I seen an apache loader for sale brand new for around 9k. Basic wee machine and didnt appear to have emmissions stuf on it. Thoughts?

 

[JET]

Every thing has a price!

Mate of mine bought a brand new chainsaw £600 odd
Got robbed! 2 yrs ago along with his quad strimmers and a load of other tools!

Claimed on insurance (premiums went up) all replaced!
Put in a camera system

A year later got robbed again everything was taken again and this time They also robbed the camera systems!!!!!

Found who did it but police couldn't convict him as the items were no where to be seen!

Items were replaced on the insurance again (premiums are now sky high)

I bought x2 50cc Chinese chain saws (only to cut fire wood) £55 each and they both work fine! im not promoting Chinese crap but for the use i have for them they are more than fine!

PLUS NO ONE WANTS TO STEAL THEM!

I once put a new chain on and it cost me £30 next time ill buy a new chain saw

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I had a Chinese made Diesel engined stick welder generator. It worked extremely well, I managed some of the best welding that I’ve ever done.
Then at almost precisely a year old it self destructed.

 

[Robt]

Kick them out of the top universities. I wonder why they are studying biology and the sciences.

And they say racism isnt prevalent in uk agriculture.....

 

[Ukjay]

And they say racism isnt prevalent in uk agriculture.....

Ah but ignorance is

 

[Drillman]

Just remember everyone:-

we’re all reading this on our Chinese made tablets and smart phones?

 

[Tim Howard]

Just remember everyone:-

we’re all reading this on our Chinese made tablets and smart phones?

Oh No I'm Not.
The thing to watch out for is that when a western company goes bankrupt or go out of business China is buying up the trade names so much of what you think is a branded product in now made in China.